Hawley Decries ‘Historical Revisionism’ Of Stripping Confederate Names From Bases | Talking Points Memo

Something about this guy tells me he smokes crack and invites hookers to the office after hours. The weeps in church come Sunday.

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Senator do you know what the word “indivisible” means in the flag pledge? It means the Southern disunionists lost.
Say it -"…One nation, under God, indivisible".

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Revisionism? The revisionism is that they are tricking people into thinking these guys are heroes!

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Next thing you know, these crazies will demand we rename Fort Göring and Fort Yamamoto.

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This isn’t revising history–it’s acknowledging the real import of that history. One could say this (eliminating the confederate flag and statures, as well as the current intensified pursuit of racial equality) is a step toward completing Reconstruction after a 143 year pause.

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Then name them after the heroes that won that war and some of the many citizens black and white who led the fight against slavery.

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Also sprach Senator Hawley (R-Misery):

But it also “gave us heroes and a more perfect union to love!”

Senator Hawley, exactly what does that first clause in the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America mean?

We, the People of the United States in Order to form a more perfect Union…

I’ll give you a hint: it is referring to the Articles of Confederation, which left so much sovereign power to the states that the nation was ungovernable. To make the nation governable required the states to surrender most of their sovereign privileges: that is, to bring them into closer union. Or in the parlance of the late 18th C, more perfect union.

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What is telling is that the only “winning” confederate General - and clearly the best general the confederates had Joseph E. Johnston - who behaved honorably after the war, has nothing named after him.

And lets be clear, Johnston was not an aggressive bungler who blew away the confederate forces in ill conceived craziness (see Bragg, Hood, Lee) leading to defeat, he was a guy who never made a mistake, never suffered a huge defeat, but whose very careful efforts to set up winning counter attacks were undermined by the Confederate bunglers (Hood, Bragg).

p.s. and to go a little further, Johnston believed that the South needed to protect it’s forces, not attack, but very carefully pick the places of battle and counter attack when the opportunity was presented. He wanted a war where the South wore out the North by preserving it’s forces. That was the correct strategy, drag it out, avoid a battle where the south’s strength would be depleted.

He won the battle of Bull Run with his generalship, then his strategy with a smaller army in facing McClellan was the correct one (which was overruled by Jefferson Davis). He picked the right place/time to counter attack at Seven Pines where he was wounded.

Then when in charge in the West, he was repeatedly undermined by Bragg and Pembertson, who did not execute his (well designed) plans, and then when he tried to avoid Pemberton being captured in Vicksburg by having Pemberton link up with him, Pemberton was ordered to hold it by Davis, resulting in a major defeat the effectively ended the confederacy.

Then when Bragg was finally removed, and Johnston placed in field control in the retreat to Atlanta, Johnston skillfully maneuvered his army’s into places to attack Sheraton, but his subordinates (principally Hood) disregarded his orders to attack. Finally, Davis removed Johnston, and it took Hood only three weeks to destroy the confederate army in ill conceived attacks. Atlanta fell, and Sheraton went off on his march to the sea.

I can’t think of a single mistake that Johnston made (other than his plans for Seven Pines being criticized as too complex), and when things went wrong it was because of his subordinates or Jefferson Davis overruling him.

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This has nothing to do with history. IF it was about history there would be statues of black Americans everywhere since they mostly built this country.

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Confederate Named Bases and Confederate Statues = But one example of systemic and institutional racism.

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Remove George Washington from the Dollar Bill.

Sorry, but the traitors lost. Still, there is an enormous amount of work left to do regarding equal rights for all. But this country should not cast the South and their drive to maintain slavery as something to fondly celebrate and maintain. It is that simple - the South lost. Now, all of us, the entire country, needs to make sure that we all have equal rights and that these rights are protected by all those who take political office at the municipal, state, and federal level as well as those who choose to uphold the law and protect US citizens. There may be differences in opinion as to how to do things, but no longer should anyone question our basic rights, and what a basic right even is. The only historical revisionism underway is from Hawley and the likes. We as a country need to fully embrace the necessary changes. We’ve wasted too much time and untold lives already. That too is part of our collective legacy. Stay safe, stay educated, and vote in November. Our lives depend on it.

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Hawley knows what he is doing, he’s appealing to his Evangelical base that loves that he want government money to support religious institutions. This is way to rope in “heritage” with “That hard-fought pride, in the shared struggle that unites us, is now fading,” Hawley said. “That story is being erased. A nation united in the cause of justice is dividing. And we are increasingly at war with ourselves.”
He seems to suggest that after the Civil War the country went through some “truth and reconciliation commission”. How many year did it take the state of Mississippi to ratify the 13th Amendment? 148 fucking years, that’s how long. Passing over the Jim Crow laws, the suppression of black Americans to vote and claim their rights.
God I despise this man.

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Good Lord, this man is a preening and mendacious little shitsquid, isn’t he?

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“There is no scab they will not pick at, no divide they will not exploit, no controversy they will not gin up to make us hate each other,” he said.

Republican Party strategery since 1968.

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Hawley wears a size Medium robe and hood, in case anyone is interested.

I say those bases should be named for people who are not necessarily military heroes.
Just people the local population can be justly proud of.

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No but we could in Texas.

No he’s holier than thou smug ass punk. A young Bill Barr.

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Skinny little kkklown probably only needs twin sheets, amirite?

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The thread is about the Confederacy and the names of U.S. Army posts. Washington led the U.S. Army; he didn’t lose to it.

Try to keep up.

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