Giuliani Associates Won’t Voluntarily Comply With House Impeachment Requests

[chelsea530]

Yeah, I was joking. The fact that he doesn’t know what he’s doing is no joke, however.

[honeyboywilson]

These two grifters are the perfect candidates for the House to reintroduce inherent contempt. If they refuse to testify after being subpoenaed, head immediately to a friendly judge in DC and have them thrown in jail for civil contempt.

[daveyjones64]

@sniffit

They’ll argue that there was no full vote of the House just like the WH is,

That’s a meaningless argument. Compliance with a Congressional subpoena by a private citizen is not in anyway contingent upon a vote to begin an impeachment inquiry, or even if an impeachment inquiry is happening.

They are, no doubt under the guidance of Guiliani (and whoever is giving him guidance), are barreling towards a full on Constitutional crisis.

@rickjones

Question for the legal professionals out there: Can Dowd represent both of these guys? Is there not a conflict representing both when one might want to make a deal that includes throwing the other under one of the buses in the fleet that’s lining up to handle the coming onslaught of throwees?

Well, I am still questioning while Dowd is even allowed to hold a license, after his clearly unethical behavior as Trump’s attorney.

But putting that aside, he can represent both until their interests diverge. This usually requires a waiver on both clients part until such time arrives, assuming that it ever does. If either of the clients is even considering the possibility of cutting a deal against the other, then they should seek other counsel.

[badabingo]

I heard that they will take sanctuary in Trump Towers until this all blows over.

[carolson]

If he defies MM, I’ll really be stunned. He needs him more than ever now, and they both know it.

[riverstreet]

@badabingo

I heard that they will take sanctuary in Trump Towers until this all blows over.

Sounds like cruel and unusual punishment to me.

[sniffit]

@daveyjones64

That’s a meaningless argument.

Indeed. I said they’d make it (and they are already making it elsewhere), not that it’s a good one.

The theory they have latched onto is that without the full House vote to begin an impeachment inquiry, subpoenas issued under the auspices of an impeachment inquiry, which doesn’t exist, are therefore void ab initio. This would apply to anyone…public or private…because the exercise of subpoena power itself was ineffective. As to the private individuals, this obviously gets solved with a normal committee subpoena, but then they will argue that the evidence is not part of the impeachment inquiry and pretend it has to be walled off from consideration for impeachment purposes…or some other such nonsense.

[irasdad]

“…Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman…”

I understand Giuliani funneled cash through their fake charity, “Periodontists Without Borders”.

[badabingo]

Only if Ivanka and Jared are there.

[carolson]

But obviously Rudy did not partake of their services.

[spin]

Why the fuck is congress wasting it’s time with voluntary requests. Step one should be a subpoena. Step two should be going to court in DC and getting Judge Jackson to find them in contempt. These steps should follow immediately after each other. One week to respond to the subpoena, one day after that you go to Court.

[sniffit]

@chelsea530

But after a flood of criticism from congressional Republicans, Mr. Trump pivoted hours later, saying that he would prevent Turkey from going too far, without explaining what he meant or where that line would be drawn.

In other words, he didn’t pivot at all and the NYT is yet again falling for his bullshit.

[sysprog]

Oh BS…watch these little rats RUN to the House when they get slapped with an order to comply. BIG STRONG MEN gonna ‘defy’ Adam Schiff…uh huh.

[dicktater]

Nicole LaFond…it would be helpful to start using the terms about trying to get a slice of the Oligarch Gas Pie instead of the crap about manufacturing dirt on Biden. We need to move off of that.

[lizzymom]

IANAL but my understanding is that in anticipation of this all ending up in front of a judge in the future, probably for contempt and obstruction, they are following a specific sequence of steps which prove that they tried all possible avenues, with reasonable timelines (knowing the MFers are gonna play games) so that the judge will not be able to throw this all out on a technicality.

[occamscoin]

@chelsea530

The president pivoted Monday morning, saying he would prevent Turkey from going too far.

So, sternly worded letter, blustery phone call, or just a frowny face? Translation: kill the Kurds and take their land, but don’t let me hear about it in the news.

[occamscoin]

@badabingo

I heard that they will take sanctuary in Trump Towers until this all blows over.

The one that burned?

[chelsea530]

It used the word “pivoted,” but I don’t think it’s the type of pivot silly people kept hoping to see, and he certainly isn’t getting a boost here.

[mike_in_houston]

Issue the subpoenas today. If they don’t show up, direct the capital police to track them down in Florida, arrest & extradite back to DC.

Be sure to have a full press spray follow it every step of the way.

[sniffit]

It wasn’t a pivot at all. It was the kid caught with his hand in the candy jar saying “trust me…I will only take a responsible amount of candy.”