Panic! Panic! Panic! You obviously hate humanity. I am adding you to the SOROS GROUP International registry of persons who wish to make our futures untenable! (What nerve to even hint at such a thing!)
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OK, I would take vaccine as soon as it was available to me, but I don’t think I would alter my patterns of distancing, mask-wearing, staying out of restaurants, etc. Some of my view is probably darkened by a month of sinusitis and anxiety over an at risk partner, but I can’t foresee when I would feel comfortable easing up. I just can’t see it.
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Lizzymom - perhaps you should trust the facts more than your “feelings” about Dr. Fauci.
As a scientist, he would not want you to take his word on it, but rather to look at the facts, just as he and other respectable scientists do. I trust him and other scientists because they, unlike me, are trained to understand the facts of complex scientific issues.
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I’m not easing up any time soon either. There will be mask-wearing and wise decision-making about socialization in my near future for quite some time. It’s the only sane thing to do for anyone who has experienced comorbid or pre-disposing health conditions.
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Moderna seems to be playing it both ways. No, they aren’t going to allow vaccinations prematurely but their statements also don’t outright contradict Trump. Everybody has to pussy foot around and placate this imbecile. It’s maddening.
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Tony Fauci endorses, embodies, teaches, and depends on the scientific process.
People may have their doubts but on this score I’m with him – and you.
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Would you mind telling this to the bozos in the White House, please? And could you add mask wearing, social distancing, hand washing, sanitization, testing, contact tracing and treatment to the list of things our society ought to embrace for the good of the whole? Maybe they’ll listen to you instead of the braying jackass who is Current Occupant at 1600 Black Lives Matter Avenue.
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My wife just verbally acknowledged she has to adapt to ‘a diminished life, and diminished contact.’
It broke my heart to hear her say it, because I couldn’t argue with her. She has been running on anger and denial for the last 6 months, but I think seeing me get sick (the usual late summer crap-ragweed, pollution, nasal polyps, cranky sinuses, pushing too hard at work, the horrific stress that every one of us is carrying around) kind of jolted her into reality. There’s no sane alternative, of course, but the reality sucks.
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Follow the numbers.
A bit gnomic-could you expand on that?
Too much noise with Trump in the WH over this. And no one will be vaccinated before the election.
Reacting (by anyone) to Trump’s “push” gives it power on the one hand
On the other hand, the only people with confidence in any vaccine associated with him are some of his rubes
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I think the statistics provided by JHU and some other sources are reliable (you will have to judge which to trust). I will feel safe when the infection and death rates for COVID asymptotically approach zero, and not before that.
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Fauci can’t be fired. He could be booted from the task force (which might actually please him at this point), but not from NIH. Besides, he’s 79 anyway. He is not interested in pissing away his reputation to please a boob.
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And yet, many or them are rabid anti-vaxxers. Go figure.
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Your wife obviously cares deeply, and that is to her credit. I can’t quite find the words to applaud your bravery as a couple. Please stay safe, healthy, sane and hopeful. We’ll get through this.
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I am not so desperate as to swallow a tablet from the laboratory of the President.
It’s odd how endless lies can actually end up making a difference when people need to be able to trust something. At this point, people are going to assume political pressure, no matter what. It may be better if the NIH just recognized that they are going to have to be absolutely transparent about everything in the process. It’s one of the costs of not being trustworthy.
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Look, I am also a researcher by day and have learned that verification by independent reliable sources is better than relying on a single source, even if you trust that source. Independent verification of reproducible results, preferably by multiple sources, is always better than a single source.
Even so: We had some early tests and studies with “positive results” about hydroxychloraquine, some from “reliable” research labs, but reports rushed out (sound familiar) and then it was pulled off the shelf when it was later disproved.
Fauci is playing pretty clean now, but he has hedged in the past. Plus he stood at Trump’s side during some appalling pressers, which was a bad look and at least indirectly gave Mango Mussolini a certain unearned credibility .
Just color me waiting to see. I think Fauci is more reliable than most, but he’s not my covid pope. I’ll wait for clarification what some others, for example, Christian Drosten here in Germany, have to say — Drosten was a co-discoverer of the SARS-Cov virus and works specifically in emergent viruses, which is what Covid-19 is. He’s not under the thumb of Mango Mussolini and has been pretty spot on about everything up to now. If he nods too, I’ll take it seriously. (FWIW, Drosten is one of Merkel’s main advisors and y’all know how different the situation is here than in the US.)
I think Fauci is doing the best he can under the circumstances but I am unconvinced that he is not at least partly muzzled. YMMV.
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I understand. I too, have doubts because of all the lying and politics involved, however uneffective.
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