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“…and U.S. lawmakers openly questioned whether he should remain in power.”

O/T but can Corker actually be considered a lawmaker– if he doesn’t actually make or pass laws?
The only event of note I can recall Corker having part of this year?
Was lying through his teeth and threatening Chattanooga VW employees if they voted to unionize.

jw1

I’ve been reading and thinking about this fucked up situation all afternoon.

I’d rather drop all the politicians, journalists, and right wing assholes who forced us into this horrible situation onto the ground in Iraq and tell them to get busy. But instead, they’ll stay safe in their homes while innocents die and they keep their yaps shut or (more likely) blame it on Obama.

JFC.

This is just so fucked up.
Thanks Bush. Thanks Cheney. Thanks Rummy. Thanks Wolfowitz. Thanks Condi…take a goddamn bow.

My goodness…there are just too many to thank for this massive fuck up. We trained them with billions of dollars and plenty of US blood and treasure…I say let someone else run to their rescue. We can’t fix this. We broke it for sure. But we don’t know how to fix this. We’ve never known how…I’m sick of us taking sides in this mess.

Count the Brits out. They already said no fucking way.

As should we.
That billion dollar boondoggle of an embassy…What did we think we were going to do diplomatically. We destroyed their institutions and then set up a dysfunctional proxy gov’t that can’t even protect its own citizens. We never fucking learn.

Let’s ask Hillary! She HATES war.

As then Secretary of State Colin Powell warned, “You break it, you own it.”

Neoconservatism, the gift that keeps on requiring payments.

Oh yeah? She denounced her vote on the Iraq War having realized it was a mistake and she was greatly misled…as were we all. That’s more than I can say for the steadfast NeoCons, who have been chickenhawks pining for even more wars in the Middle East. They still want us to fight fundamentalist Sunnis one day and fundamentalist Shi’ites the next. As if we can settle a more than thousand year old schism with bombs or with force at the point of a gun.

Well, it has been awfully good for Halliburton harrumph harrumph.

There is nothing we can do that will actually help a damn thing over there, we can only forestall the inevitable.

Give it up, you’re wasting electrons. It’s ridiculous trying to discuss realities with an idealist. I wish that the world worked the way UFG thinks it should but wanting to buy the world a Coca Cola is not a feasible strategy.

Good point. Talking about War makes me cranky anyway.

If I’m not mistaken, UFG’s point was that war is bad except when Putin does it.

Prime Minister al-Maliki double-dealing! Playing politics! OMG!

Having been in a “Police Action” I get pretty cranky listening to others talk about it. Plus some peoples infatuation with all things Hillary only serves to show the shallow depth of their worldview.

It’s fricking boring…

Yah, seriously who might have guessed? And if we had just made a bigger commitment to prop up Thieu and Diem we could have a McDonalds & Starbucks on every Hanoi corner! Walmart too!

Crush them! Time to carpet bomb them with pallets of $100 bills.

…again,

Looby

What a damned shame. this is dick cheney and george bush’s legacy. They destroyed a country in the name of profit while they let bin ladin the one who actually attacked and killed Americans in our own land get away just to prolong bush’s war for profit. And people are still dieing today because of these ass wipes.
Where the hell are all the committees and investigations now?

So true, but as always, how big does the commitment have to be? When do you walk away and not look back?

I have no answer for that on a policy level. I never turned my head away. I knew what I’d seen and have gone back a few times to aid with farming practices in the Highlands and to purchase livestock for a few vils. I wish I had made better of myself in life and had the wealth to do much more over there.

Thankfully the Vietnamese are a very warm and forgiving people. Industrious too, unlike what I see in Iraq.