Discussion:

Agreed. My guess would be that they weren’t the first group of people ever to be kicked off a wine train for being too loud.

Not necessarily.
Napa Wine Train = snooty-ass snobs.
Seriously, Napa is an extremely privileged and elitist place.

Their story is entirely believable.
I used to be an antiques dealer in the area.
Mega-snobs.

“If you get a group of 11 women talking and laughing, it’s going to be loud…”

True dat.

All aboard the KKK Express!

Choo choo!

So, a business venture whose purpose is to take people to a number of wineries to drink wine, and that serves alcohol on the train in between gets upset because some women get a bit rowdy? That’s like taking your kid to Chuck E. Cheese and complaining that it’s noisy.

What’s next? Talking Back to the Screen While Black.

The main objection may be that they were a book group.

@CandiRue : now that one I’m inclined to complain about

Sounds like an alcohol related incident.

I don’t know if it’s a black or white thing, but we’ve all been in some group – a tour, restaurant, movie – where some segment is behaving really obnoxiously and boisterous.

i may not like it, but I never complain. I leave first.

Look at those faces and a book club to boot, you just know they’re up to something.

Jeb!'s left hand is furious about this.

Napa Valley is Daytona Beach for affluent white middle-agers. I can’t claim to know exactly what happened on that train, but, given the number of loud, drunk, scary WASPs I’ve seen barreling around Napa without triggering a police presence, all signs point to these women being the “wrong” kind of visitors.

I’m just guessing here but it sounds like the group was disturbing other people who were also trying to enjoy themselves but couldn’t because of the noise. Warned twice and the group should have gotten the message. No excuse. I know how irritating loud people are, especially in a confined space you can’t escape from. In many countries you can’t even talk on your phone on a train because it disturbs others. Sounds like this group couldn’t take the hint so they decided to get a little publicity by raising the overused race card.

oh cut the race crap, the white privilege crap - it’s way over used. We are all getting tired of it.

what if you can’t leave?

This is ridiculous. I have been to many restaurants where one table was way over the top. We went to a restaurant years ago where one table was so loud that no one at my table could hear ourselves. They were white, we are white - race is irrelevant. You can be hooting and hollering in a way that is appropriate some places but not others. If 3 separate people complain, sorry, the subject of the complaints had better do some self-reflection. And this auto-racism shit is totally done. Just because someone complains about you and you are black, it may be the content of your character which is the problem, not the color of your skin. This happens in movie theatres all the time - one group or one individual does not know the difference between a movie at home and a movie in the theatre.

You probably have never been to a winery. So, I will pardon your ignorance. I go to them a lot, and no, just because you have a glass of wine, that does not excuse immature behavior. You should go to a winery, you will be amazed - people can enjoy wine without screaming at the top of their lungs. It’s amazing.

“overused”

When you grow up black in this country you get to say when race is “overused” until you do that you need to clamp your mandibles together. You know not of what you speak.

It’s booze tour, for heavens sake. Unless they were fighting or doing something that truly threatened the social order on the train, this sounds ridiculous.

And that happens, too. One just tries to shut it out.