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Go for it: Putting those mofos in prison would certainly earn Obama a trird term.

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Perhaps Issa could chair such an investigation?

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Obama? Prosecute? LOL!!

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Why isn’t Condi Rice on the list?

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LIBTardsaysWHA???

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Really? The paper that JUST got around to even PRINTING the word TORTURE in AUGUST wants Obama to throw the former Vice President of the United States of America in PRISON? Really?! If their was any indication of Cheney feeling guilt or remorse, you could do a “Truth and Commission” and have Cheney surrender his passport/apologize/go live in Wyoming until he dies, but Cheney would never do that. Which means he would scream, cry and whine on Fox News 24/7 while fighting every subpoena, charge and piece of evidence. Most American’s aren’t even opposed to torture! I wish Obama had gone after Wall Street, but he might a well ride a unicorn to arrest Cheney. Total fantasy.

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Sure … right after they prosecute and jail the Wall Street bastards that tanked the economy.
In this country the law can absolutely be bought.

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While I agree, It. Will. Never. Happen. First off, you’d have to convene a special bi-partisan Congressional committee, but that has to be done by the…wait for it…Republican Congress. Second, if the DoJ does it, it will be seen as a partisan issue only.

Easy for the NYT to write it when they know it will never happen: they get a “clean” conscience with no fallout. How easy for them.

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Wow, all the way to the top even President Cheney…
Special special face slap: Judy Miller

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Actually, he should be prosecuting the BANKERS and the BUSHIES in the JUSTICE department like Schlozman, for instance, as well as the torturers.

At the very least, he should be indicting them and forcing the Teabaggers to come up with reasons not to prosecute. Those would go over REALLY big on the nightly news. Not even indicting them accelates the belief that government is useless and full of a bunch of wusses. Also, it allows Fox Not the News to play it’s favorite game of “Well, the Democrats are JUST as bad.”

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Aaaaaw, how cute. The NTY wants to drive a wedge between Obama/Dems and progressives. Tell me something I don’t know…

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Let hungry dogs eat sleeping dogs…
–North Korean proverb

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The US criminal justice system is deeply corrupt. The banksters, torturers, and some violent policeman go unpunished and unscathed. And minorites face a different and often illegal standard of justice. There are no easy solutions.

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Good point on the hypocrisy of NYT. However, I think it best to dam them when they are wrong, and applaud them when they are finally right.

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For African Americans and Latinos, we are regularly treated to televised presentations of success stories by members of our respective groups. Usually this is in the form of an overall presentation, subdivided into 5-10 minute sections for each person, in which the “honoree” sometimes is captured saying things designed to evoke admiration.

I am always amused and amazed to see Condi Rice on many of these presentations.

Along side of some really GOOD people.

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This perennial complaint is really off the point. There have been many prosecutions. But the trouble is the congress that continually tries undoing Dodd Frank and outright tells the bankers to pay no attention to it, they will never make them adhere to its rules.

The torture investigation should have been done in a much more public way, with televised hearings held by Feinstein. That is no longer possible, with the GOP in control, but believe me, the idea that Cheney could face prosecution fills me with delight.

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It pisses me off for people to say ‘That wasn’t torture, it was just “Enhanced Interrogation Techniques”’.

I’m retired military and spent my entire time as an interrogator. I taught interrogation and helped re-write and update a number of interrogation courses.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ENHANCED INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES.

It’s a made up term, so that they didn’t have to call torture torture. It’s not torture, just enhanced interrogation techniques. In all of my time teaching interrogation and being an interrogator, that term was never used and is not part of our lingo.

Of course, EIT is what the Gestapo called their torture in WWII Germany, but other than historically I’ve never heard that term used once.

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History…how quaint.

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While what the NYT argues has merit, I will never forgive the publication for:

  1. Helping to bang the Iraq WMD drums; and
  2. Never taking full responsibility for it.
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