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Fuck it, who cares, weâre getting a tax cut ! ! !
They love that talking point about choice.
How about we gut car regulations as well, so i can choose to buy a new car that only cost 2000, sure it will likely kill me and others but at least it gives me a choice right?
Sure there will be plans cheaper then now if your including garbage scam plans that donât cover you in 99 percent of cases, and the fact that they are including that means that the actual amount of people with health insurance that will be worth a dam is even less then what the CBO is predicting.
Hospitals cover their costs for providing care to the uninsured by distributing that to the insured.
So we all pay when people choose not to be insured.
Iâve got no problems helping out those in need, but when people who COULD afford to be insure choose not to do that, why should I pay?
The mandate is a necessary part of the puzzle.
Yup. Extending RepublicanLogic⢠means that car insurance should be voluntary. How can you compel someone to insure their vehicle but not their body?
You know I wouldnât mind all the deadbeats who refuse to buy insurance except that some of them show up in ERs and the rest of us foot the bill. I suppose thatâs âFreedomâ, right Sean? And itâs slavery to hit them up for a tax penalty, right?
Basically it is this:
A poor person doesnât put the same high price on life as does a rich person. Life is plentiful. Life is cheap when youâre poor.
(with no apologies to William Wesmoreland)
âIf they actually had choices, and had a plan option that was down at a budget that they could afford, there is a higher likelihood that they would buy a plan that was, a, tailored to them, and that, b, they could afford,â Spicer responded.
Yes, such options would be nice. Of course, such plan options are nowhere to be found in the proposed bill.
Nice, Senator Schumer.
This is the new talking point and they have been trying for few days but it doesnt get picked up by media:
People who lose insurance are the ones who were forced to have it under the ObamaCare mandate. If you add those with the others who paid the penalty, we get to approx 24 millions who never wanted insurance.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!
His numbers have restarted the descent. It was odd that his numbers improved when he released the bill and it persisted for couple of days:
Not only will millions go without insurance, only the very sickest who really need coverage will apply and pay that 30% penalty for going without coverage for two months or more. Result? More claims and higher rates.
A 50 year old earning twenty grand adjusted income who went two months without coverage would pay a $695.00 penalty in 2017 under the ACA.
That same fifty year old paying a premium of a grand a month would pay a penalty of 30% to the insurance companies under the Republican plan. That could be close to a four thousand dollar fine for a year of coverage.
Edit to add: I should have wrote that hypothetical person would pay $695.00 under the ACA in penalties for going without insurance for the entire year, not two months. Link to calculator
http://obamacarefee.com/2017-calculator/
And how about the 643k annually who declare bankruptcy due to medical bills, a majority of whom are insured with the crap policies that unregulated insurance will afford them? Hey, letâs go back to that! MAGA
SpiceBunny still didnât explain how the GOP Death Panels will be paid.
Will it be on a tonnage rate of the yield, or a count the legs and divide by two approach? (amputees need not apply)âŚ
What member of Congress will go out on a limb for a President with <40% approval?
as a result of the repeal of Obamacareâs tax penalties for those without insurance."
Thereâs been a lot of complaining about the ACA Individual Mandate and associated penalties. As I understand it, anyone whose cheapest available insurance policy cost more than 8 1/2 % of their income could get an exemption from the Mandate. Thatâs a pretty large loophole. Am I missing something here?
Spicer: The fact Mr. Trump said that under his tremendous plan âeveryone will be coveredâ should not be taken seriously, because he was joking, of course. Secondly, by âeveryoneâ he meant âvery fewâ. The biased, liberal press is out to take the Presidentâs words at face value, and that is so unfair and clearly a âgotchaâ tactic. The President is certain that he will let everyone know when heâs joking, so letâs stop all this cruel attempt to take his words, exactly as he said them, and try to say they have objective meaning.
âŚand somehow they think this is what the âAmerican Peopleâ want? Really? Did they listen?
This is the part I donât get. Do they think that people are psychic and will be able to predict what diseases they will get and then only get coverage for those diseases? Even then, such selective policies donât exist.
I think the fundamental problem is that they just donât understand how insurance works.