Discussion: Wife Of Man Killed In Triple Shooting: 'I Need An Answer From The Government'

Over at the Democracy Now web site there is a piece on John Dean who was in Nixon’s White house. He says trump says things in public that Nixon was only caught on tape saying. He also sees parallels between the two.

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If you go back to life in the old west, Dodge City being an example they were fairly tough on firearms. “Check you gun at the bar” was a frequent refrain as well as the local sheriff going into a mentally deranged persons home and taking or disabling their weapon.

Scalia the Originalist should have been versed in this history when he wrote the decision in Heller.

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Right Sean, it is just absurd to think that a 51 year old drunk would first ask two Indian guys about their visa status, come back, shoot them, and then go to another bar and claim he had just shot two Midfle Eastern men, nothing to do with Trump. Why would anyone think such a thing?

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I encourage you to do so, not that you know me. It is a good idea.

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The Trump/Bannon/Sessions Government is just going to encourage more of these killings: it’s what they are all about.

Well, we certainly know how Truman would have handled it.

I’m old but not Truman old.

I see that Truman refused aid to India.

OT… Trump’s skipping the White House Correspondents Dinner.

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Truman had a sign on his Oval Office desk that said: “THE BUCK STOPS HERE.”

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O - what a silly person I am to forget that.

:laughing:

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Man, I hope they skewer the bastard.

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How Canada is trying to capitalize on Trump’s immigration executive order

This foreign rival is embracing the U.S. curbs on immigration.

Foreign rival?

So now we are capitalizing on Trump’s inanity by doing the right thing?

FU WaPo for this headline that buys into Trump’s nationalistic framing.

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It’s good you pointed this out. Honestly, I just ignored it, to the point of not really noticing it was there.

It is a load of garbage.

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It might be worth reviewing the industrial and commercial investment in the deep South during the days before the Civil Rights movement. The area was poor for many reasons, but one of the big ones was that employees of responsible large corporations refused to live in States where they would not be treated as equal citizens and would, in fact, be in literal danger. Guess that’s the sort of “Great America” that he wants to revisit. – My stomach hasn’t stopped hurting since election night.

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My friend from India had something similar, but less fatal, happen to him after 9/11. He’s a songwriter, so he wrote a song about it. He’s also am amazingly fine musician. I’m a videographer, so I made a video of the story and the song. Here it is.

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How difficult would it have been to express concern for those shot and to comment on the senselessness of the shooting itself? Or how bigotry is unacceptable? (underscoring the comments that DT made a couple of days earlier) Or how great it was that a bystander risked his own life to intervene? Etc…Etc… there are so many ways this response could have been less…absurd.

Instead he responds in a defensive way that is all about DT and the administration. No empathy for the victims or their families.

There will be negative repercussions to this sort of thing. The best and brightest from other countries have been coming here for years to study and work and this is going to slow. These immigrants have created benefits for our country greatly, largely in red states. I saw it in small town Ohio where my grandfather lived… If governors and local officials (and citizens) do not start speaking up to try to counteract the callousness of the Administration over this murder and other bias incidents, then we will lose much. People have a basic need to feel safe.

I wonder what the conversations are like between Spicer and his wife when he gets home from work?

Canada is doing the right thing and providing a hopeful counterbalance to what is happening as a result of our new Administration… And in doing so, your country is underscoring how screwed up our current leadership is (I include congress in this) . It is not necessarily the easy way but I think and hope that it will be good for Canada and the people who are welcomed. It is our loss and Canada’s behavior deservedly shames us.

Foreign rival? OY.

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Yes. You belong.

With regard to how the government will stop such violence, look… Republicans don’t even act when gunmen shoot their own children in their school desks.

Republicans believe aggression works, and that aggression is best supported by allowing aggressors to have easy access to lethal weaponry. Republicans believe aggressors will reward them with political power, and never use lethal force against them, only against non-Republicans.

There are many in this country who believe the Bill of Rights means something very different by the phrase “well-regulated militia.” We believe that phrase validates a more organized civilian force, which terrifies authoritarian conservatives because it gives power to the people, and we believe it means a tight, neighborhood-controlled management of guns, which terrifies the sick aggressive bullies.

Your choice is to change your allegiance to a country with higher morals than Republican conservatives, or join us in the fight.

Guns will stay in America. But the Republican Party has to go.

At least most of the generals like Mattis seem to get that Canada is not a rival. Probably no turban wearer was ever greeted with more warmth at the Pentagon then our secretary of defence Harjit Sajjan.

They should have Alex Baldwin take his place.

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