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There are GOP âmoderatesâ? The only thing moderate about Bush or Rubio is their tone. The overwhelming majority of their policies are just as wing nutty as Cruz or Trump. Otherwise, solid article.
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Just keep Jebya! away!! Thoroughly dislikable Cruz will flame on his own.
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In fairness to the author, note that she carefully avoids the term âmoderateâ in the text, referring instead to the âestablishmentâ. My understanding is that headlines are typically written by someone else.
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There have been no GOP âmoderatesâ since Reagan purged them out of the party.
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The GOP establishment is like a zombie that doesnât know it is dead.
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Just makes me wonder more what stunt Trump will pull to get out of the race. I remain convinced that he doesnât really want to be president.
Am I deluding myself?
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Bush, Christis, Kasich, Graham and Rubio are Republiklan moderates??? Sweetgeezus, they all are little to right of Genghis Khan.
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Shorter version: âWe are the true GOP Conservatives, and like flies and dung beetles, our voters will come back to us, the ârealâ piles of sh*t, if we just hold out long enough.â UhhhHuuuhâŚGood luck with that "strateegeryâ "!
YOU created the TEAhadists ⌠enjoy them!
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Well the establishment has been stringing along far right voters for years and when they got tired of it they started the tea party. And to me the only reason tea party folks win is the gerrymandering republicans did to win congress kind of backfired on them and got tea party folks elected.But like mentioned here the establishment gop could still win in wide swath primary elections if they only had 1 establishment candidate vs the tea party favorite. Be interesting to see when they realize this and whittle the Establishment candidates down to one. And I think this gerrymandering is pretty much the same reason a democrat can be elected president, even in low turnout elections, but they canât get a majority in congress.
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You wish. Trump will be president if so elected. Heâs staying and will have his wrecking ball ready. I still doubt heâll be nominated as GOP candidate, but, heâs staying to find out, believe me. That is his ego construct: he deserves it all. âThe rest of you can go to hellâ. - Donald Trump.
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The word âmoderateâ is not in this article. Iâd suggest you read the article before commenting.
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The idea of Ted Cruz being an outsider is laughable. His wife was a top executive at Goldman Sachs during the mortgage crises,and when they took the bailout. They made millions. He has been bought and paid for a few times over by every special interest there is.
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I agree with you.
However, he is an âoutsiderâ in the U.S, Senate. He is an outsider to all people who ever knew him, socially. He is an outsider to people like me (there are people named âCruzâ among my ancestors).
He is an outsider to the human race.
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Sometimes I wonder whether the Citizens United ruling actually backfired on the Republicans. Unlimited anonymous funding meant that an unruly herd of unqualified candidates had funding well past their freshness date. So, this far into the primary season we still have poor candidates being propped up by billionaires, vying for most regressive comment to get attention.
Then Trump elbowed his way into the mess, upsetting all the carefully funded apple carts. All those billions going to waste as Trump slams his weight around and the media gushes shamelessly. Since there are way too many Republicans milling around, sniping at each other, trying to spend their PAC money, they canât unite and oust Trump from the field. The whole mess may drag them down to defeat.
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Well the establishment has been stringing along far right voters for
years and when they got tired of it they started the tea party.
And thatâs just the thing. They really have splintered off into their own party, more or less. The baggers arenât just angry at the establishment candidate but the establishment PARTY, itself. The conventional wisdom, up til now, was that everyone would just get on board the estab. nominee and things would go as they always did. Eventually, they were told, theyâd win. But only by softening their tone, etc, etc.
But the baggers, much like Yâall Qaeda, believe that they have a lot more power and influence than they actually do on a national level. They wonât be told otherwise.
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True, and regardless of who writes the headlines the person who wrote the headline is merely trying to find a way to respectfully say, âthe not totally batshit wing of the party that would not start WWIII because Cameron made a crack about his golf swing.â
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This thought is always true, one of the establishment types has to win the primary and that gets them to a one on one vs. the Democrat candidate and they all hope for the others to fade away. It basically goes without saying.
The scenario is amped with mega-jerk Trump in the running but the process hasnât changed a bit other than the non-establishment types appear to have a legitimate shot this time around.
In this case, it must be stipulated that âmoderateâ is relative by definition.
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The moderates lost power and influence with Reagan, true.
But it was not until 2010 that the former GOP was scrubbed squeaky clean of all hint of moderation, or even former moderation. It was the final act in a century long process of capture by Plutocracy (begun in 1896).
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