Discussion: Who Was In The Fateful Meeting That Rick Gates Lied To Mueller About?

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I agree. Not a joke. I’d never read the whole transcript before - thanks for posting! - and what struck me was how awkward that whole ending was compared to the rest of he conversation. (Well, that was halting in a whole other way). But what’s a fairly in depth conversation about Ukraine suddenly pivots at McCarthy’s surprisingly late arrival in the transcript. It’s like he came in and only heard the Russia part, and then sparks to Rohrabacher. Interesting also the conversation about Russian Psych Ops, where Ryan says we’re the only ones fighting it, and McCarthy, IIRC, says No we aren’t. No we aren’t.

Speaking of Rohrabacher, there’s also the weird bit about Ryan shutting down his travel privileges, I believe after that bizarre trip to see Assange. What was that all about? The official line was still that Wikileaks was not Russia linked, and putting Rohrabacher over there with Assange kind of blew that out of the water. Perhaps some special instructions from Vladimir to Julian he couldn’t risk the Ecuadorians deliverng un-examined? Or maybe Assange was the messenger?

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As has been noted, that was right after Trump had to pay out $25 million in the Trump University fraud lawsuit filed in Judge Curiel’s court. So was $25M of the $26M kicked back to Trump, with a $1M processing fee for Ms. Wolkoff?

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With a kid headed to college I started to feel old.

After reading this thread I feel young again.

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I so want to see Rohabacher be taken down! I an so tired of this traitorous asshole running amok and kissing Putin’s ass in public.

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That’s right. And what Ryan called “the family” might be better termed The Family. We don’t talk about The Family.

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This thread made me feel really young. I was a kid when Watergate ‘dropped’ and Nixon resigned around my birthday. I can almost smell the burning wax of the birthday candles.

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Totally OT, but a real laugh-fest.

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School trip of 3rd grade to go to railroad depot and wave at Eisenhower as he went by on a train to Seattle. He stayed in the train car though.

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When you say Vin Weber, you are of course referring to THE Vin Weber, infamous co-architect with Newt Gingrich of the 1994 Republican Congressional “Revolution” and its “Contract for America,” prominent participant in House banking scandal, signer of the PNAC letter, pre-subprime mortgage crisis protector of Freddie Mac, and one-time lobbyist for Vladimir Putin’s Gazprom?

Why he’s got more scandal tracks on his arms than White House senior consiglieri Don McGahn II, one-time chief counsel of the National Republican Congressional Committee who helped then House Majority Leader Tom “The Hammer” DeLay manage the fallout from a Russian oil interest pay-to-play scheme tied to that infamous locus of corruption, Jack Abramoff, who reputedly was responsible for selling Rep. Dana Rohrabacher to Vladimir Putin, and may well have delivered Donald Trump to him as well.

Nothing happens in isolation.

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In our youth we all probably dropped our drawers at the drop of a hat.

Old people stuff: So, I watched Eisenhower’s first inauguration on a neighbor’s fuzzy TV when I was in 3rd grade. (Our class got the morning off for this. I suspect our teacher was a Republican…) Skipped a day of high school to watch Kennedy’s motorcade pass by our house on the way to UC’s Greek Theater.

(Ours was a “no TV” household until the Watergate hearings - by then I was long gone. My super intellectual mom became enamored of Star Trek reruns, and she got a bigger TV to replace the tiny desktop model.)

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I have no doubt that were sound legal reasons to charge Gates for lying at the proffer meeting. But I also suspect that, as with the detail evident in the indictment of the 13 Russians, another very valid purpose was served: Putting Trump allies, lackeys, relatives, etc. on notice that the Mueller has access to all sorts of tools and information that can demonstrate if they lie to him and that, if they do, they will be indicted for doing so.

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Do you remember the connection between Nunes and Rohrabacher?

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Of course it isn’t dirty by the time he gets it = it’s been laundered all clean.

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Micro-Penis, as in needing scanning electron microscope to detect.

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Nothing in Isolation, and little unseen-
Mueller left private practice 1995, had he been watching this crowd?
joined the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia in 1995

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O/T: Is anyone else having the same problem I am, with the Editor’s Blog article title “The Big Picture: A Desperate Man”, and Warren Zevon’s Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money starting up in the back of the brain?

Now I’m hiding in Honduras, I’m a desperate man
Send lawyers, guns, and money; the shit has hit the fan

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