Discussion: 'Whitewash': What Was The 'Other' DOJ Probe Paul Manafort Was Lying About?

In basketball shooters shoot, in politics liars lie.

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Eventually these redactions will be made public, probably when someone gets indicted. We’ll wait.

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“REDACTED”

Hehe…I wish I was good with PhotoSop so I could make a bunch of photos of all the people indicted or even convicted and put a giant red “REDACTED” stamp across them. You been REDACTED, bitches!!!

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Details about the nature of Manafort’s lie are scarce, but appear to involve an unknown person who “contacted him regarding” a redacted topic. The same day Manafort was supposedly contacted, Berman Jackson said, a meeting was held in part to resolve an unspecified “problem.”

Who did Manafort meet with after the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016? He cancelled a trip to somewhere that had to do with Wikileaks? I have been searching but have not been able to find anything outside a pay wall. Can somebody help me out here?

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Well, gee… how many ‘other’ DOJ probes involving Manafort are there? The only big one missing in his indictments so far are the ones related to Trump’s campaign, and specifically to Trump and Co. getting cozy with the Russkis…

But if he’s no longer a cooperating witness, then what good is he? Has he still been giving “personal reports” to Deripaska about the details of the OSC investigations, like he has with Trump?

How are these “mutual defense pacts” even legal, if it involves sharing sensitive and possibly damaging information between defendants (and possible co-conspirators)? I thought “gags” were a given up to a point.

People used to always say “I can’t comment on an ongoing court case”… now they comment constantly, along with their co-conspirators, and do it all on TV…? Fox is partly responsible for breaking through that ethical barrier, by encouraging these misfits and miscreants to air their ‘grievances’ on their “news” channel… so they can muddy the waters and obfuscate the simple facts. And get Trump’s attention for a possible pardon.

You had better be an awfully good minion. Trump doesn’t hand them out for “losers”, and just being indicted seems to put you on his bad side anymore…

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I found it. It was Cohen meeting with Felix Sater and trip to Moscow regarding Trump Tower Moscow, so I don’t think that is the redacted topic.

From NBC News:

In fact, [Felix Sater] said, it is not a coincidence that, … , Michael Cohen canceled a planned trip to Moscow on June 14, 2016 — the same day the Post broke the story that Russians had hacked the Democratic National Committee.

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Taking the entirety of the corruption of Trump and his minions into account, and the two plus years they have spent trying to derail the many investigations regarding Russia and obstruction of justice, and their many more failures to do so, one thing stands clear: the American system still works.

For those of you who have overseas contacts, please reassure them that this is true.

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This takes lying to a whole other level.

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The discussion is from page 40 - 44 of the transcript. Much of it is blacked out. It involves a certain mystery “Mr. X”.

As is typical, Manafort said one thing at the proffer stage, and then walked it back in a familiar pattern to mitigate and possibly exculpate Mr. X’s liability exposure. The thing is that this Mr. X is cooperating with the FBI separately, and admitted to more than Manafort’s walk back. This is how, in part, that the special counsel knows that Manafort is lying on this particular topic.

I think a key point Jackson makes is, “At no point has the defense told me in any pleading that the first version was mistaken.” So Manafort is lying and is lawyers aren’t trying to cover for him.

I have no idea what this is about, but it feels like SDNY or EDNY talked to Manafort. It could be about the inaugural fund probe or Cohen related. Those would be my guesses.

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Sadly, “Mr. REDACTED” was not the followup hit Styx had hoped for.

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I’m an overseas contact, the jury is still out as far as I am concerned. The senate majority is failing, there is a new Trump selected AG and will soon be a new Trump selected DAG. Large parts of the media are still failing. The courts are getting stacked, and you have minority rule.

I’m hoping for the best but things look very dicey indeed to me.

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Totally OT, but I was wondering about this nuclear secrets business with Trump, Kushner, Flynn and Thomas J Barrack?!! Getting plutonium and uranium are less of a challenge than assembling the high-energy materials that go into making the bomb really go boom, which seems to be what these dorks were selling. Just seems wrong in so many ways, like they don’t even appreciate what nuclear weapons do. They’re like a bad ad agency that doesn’t try to sell the steak, but rather the sizzle (and treasonous sizzle at that).

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Totally off topic but I thought I’d share this anyway…from theonion.com:

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I heard about that cabal of sub-geniuses trying to sell and transfer nuclear secrets to Saudi Arabia. Yeah boy… what could possibly go wrong with spreading the knowledge of how to make the bomb go BOOM in a place like the middle east?.

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Manifort has always been the key.

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Can we remove the name “trump” from every trump owned (or licensed) building, and replace it with “REDACTED” instead?

Please???

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I think a lot of people would be more in favor of “Individual-1” since that’s the name that shows up in the Michael Cohen indictments. Though REDACTED would by amusing in its own right.

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“Once upon a time in America…” the ravings of the lunatic fringe would have been just that.

No longer. On a positive note, hospitals across the world are sharing information that will cure diseases faster. So when you or your loved ones gets cancer, you’ll have a better chance of surviving.

On the negative side, the evil morons are connecting and spreading their poison more easily as well.

It’s relatively simple to figure that out. If you want that kind of history in your search, you can find it on the Internet. High School children can do it. What they lack are the elements to make it all go Big Boom. In theory, the US and other sane nations try to keep that material confined. I guess we’ll see how successful this effort remains as we move down this path.