Discussion: White Nationalists Push Back Against Efforts to Honor Black Confederates

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Glad to see we are winning in matters of history, but in regards to current events, not so much.

Virginia Republicans hold state House after candidate wins lucky draw

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@TPM

White Nationalists Push Back Against Efforts to Honor Black Confederates

But the project is also at odds with the efforts of white nationalists who, for different reasons, want to ensure the Confederacy is remembered as a white supremacist project …

… i.e., accurately.

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Maj. Martin Delany

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@sickneffintired

The stupid is so strong it hurts.

Am I remembering the 90’s correctly? I remember us being a lot smarter, as a country, circa 1995.

It just seems like we’ve been on a relentless descent to stupider and stupider depths ever since Fox News went on the air in late 1996. I mean, yeah, it was bad when Ayn Rand had a resurgence in the 1980’s, but the stupid really accelerated after Fox News started broadcasting.

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@TPM

State Reps. Bill Chumley and Mike Burns told TPM their inspiration came from a group of descendants of African-American Confederate soldiers who reached out to them last October, wanting to construct a monument honoring their ancestors.

Chumley and Burns made that up, right? There can’t really be a group of Black Confederate descendants who want to honor blacks who fought to preserve slavery, can there?

Color me skeptical.

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In the meantime, legislation proposing a statue at the State House honoring Robert Smalls, is still pending.

"Born into slavery in Beaufort, Smalls was a boat pilot. He won his freedom by commandeering a Confederate ship and piloting it out of Charleston harbor and into the Union blockade outside the port.

Afterward, Smalls fought for the Union. After the end of the Civil War, he was elected to the S.C. House, state Senate and U.S. House of Representatives, advocating for civil rights for former slaves."

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article174392026.html

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@georgial1beral

How very odd to agree with the white supremacists.

Yeah, I’m finding myself a little discomfited and unsettled by that oddity too.

[arrendis]

No no, it needs to be stories of black transgender communist confederate soldiers.

[centralasiaexpat]

Not communist. Republican!

[ncsteve]

Odds are they already have and just don’t know it.

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@Kevin Levin - author of *Searching for Black Confederate Soldiers* (via TPM)

“Hardcore white supremacists want to step back and say, ‘Look, the Confederacy was racist, their goal was the preservation of white supremacy and slavery. And they’re actually the ones who are on solid historical ground; they’re the ones that are cutting through the myth.”

Myth, huh? Well, that’s an interesting new euphemism for bullshit.

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@Lacuna-Synecdoche

Yeah, I’m finding myself a little discomfited and unsettled by that oddity too.

I’m not sure if they think the war was over slavery and you think the war was over slavery that you necessarily are agreeing with them. They probably would say water is wet. I can shall-we-say “agree” with that and still think they’re sickening toads.

I’ve said before I was in the Deep South once a long time ago, like 30 years ago, and was told by a guy I knew was not stupid or hateful that slavery wasn’t all bad. I won’t abuse your eyes with the nonsense he believed about that. But I can see things haven’t changed. The only thing that’s changed is they’re out and proud about it now. Not all Southerners are like that. And people like that don’t only live in the South. But there sure are a lot of them. SMH

[ncsteve]

Well, “agree” is such a strong word. More like trying to pick a side in the ideological disagreement between Hitler and Gregor Strasser.

[invitedguest]

But you’re not agreeing. You’re simply recognizing the same fact, one that these acorn-brained dufuses in SC will never be able to register.

[billfrompa]

First, there was a regiment of slave volunteers and white walking wounded that was drilling at the time of surrender but neither it nor any other black actually fired a shot in the Civil War. Numerous confederate soldiers brought a slave or 2 to camp as personal servants and many slaves were impressed into labor gangs but they were forced, not volunteers.

Still, I’m amused to see the peckerwoods fighting over a non-existent issue. BTW, what’s the plural of peckerwood, peckerwoods or peckers wood?

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The confederacy was at least as ripe for violent Marxist revolution as any country that actually suffered one. If the Russians won’t help, there must be Chinese hackers who’re equally skilled.

[old_curmudgeon]

Thank you!

[old_curmudgeon]

That’s because after Fix Schmooze started blaring idiocy, the stupid forgot their place.

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Everywhere you look in the Republican party, true conservatives are pissed off at RINOs.