So you base your reply solely on anecdotal reports.
On that, and on the clear unfairness of the process, in which counsel is not provided to the accused, the accused are not allowed to question or confront their accusers, in which unqualified persons make judgements with long-term consequences on the unfairly accused, and in which no evidential standard that YOU would be comfortable with is used. You know, star chamber stuff.
Iâm shocked that ANYONE defends such an unfair procedure.
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Hereâs a blatant example of the insanity of the process:
In this case, NEITHER the male nor female in a situation wanted a proceedings to be brought. It was a consensual situation. Yet the young man is now off the USC football team, may lose his opportunity to play pro football, and will not graduate from a prestigious university.
If you are defending this situation, you are an idiot.
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Maybe the lesson for everyone is to stay away from women. Procreation is vastly overrated. Plus youâre going to eventually lose half or more of everything youâve ever worked for, you know youâre going to screw it up. Have a hobby. Play tennis.
The last 10 years have done terrible things to young women on campus. The âno means noâ movement has gradually infantilized women. By saying âwe need to get men to stop rapingâ (which I agree with), the entire issue of âdoing sensible things to NOT make yourself vulnerableâ is now constituted as âblaming the victimâ.
Women should take responsibility for things. Yes, men do things like put date-rape drugs into drinks. Thatâs not what I am talking about. But women should be encouraged to be adults. Drink responsibly, donât go into dark rooms with strange men, think about the situation.
In other words, act like adults.
When you have drunken sex, you sometimes regret it. What you should learn is âhaving drunken sex is not a great ideaâ. What you should NOT do is call the male a rapist, IN THE MOST CASE.
We need to rethink entirely the manner in which women and men approach alcohol as well. Too much drinking to excess in college.
That is a habit a not insignificant number of people practice for the bulk of their adult lives.
Or a human sister of mine!
I agree. The problem is that at college 1) they are naive 2) they want to let go 3) they want to fit in. Itâs a toxic brew of problems with alcohol. If they were trained to understand alcohol by drinking before college, it might be less of a problem.
And fraternities control the alcohol experience at college. Spiking the punch, jungle juice, etc There is predatory sexual behavior in frats. Thatâs wrong. Frats set up situations where young, hot women are given too much to drink, and do get taken advantage of. Solution? Make alcohol legal at 18. That gets it away from frats.
At some point personal responsibility comes into play. And your upbringing. Way back in the day we all pushed the envelope. Hard. But we were all taught growing up there were certain things you JUST DIDNâT DO. Rape, or forcing yourself on a woman, was one of them. Guys that did that were assholes, ostracized, most assuredly got shunned and left off every invitation list, for anything.
I guess times have changed. In my day free love didnât mean forced love.
I certainly agree with that.
Thank you for conceding that you were basically making shit up.
Thatâs because it is, in fact, âblaming the victim.â Funny how that works.
The issue is not that âforced loveâ isnât rape, itâs that women lie, they lie to feel better, they lie to get even, they lie because their feminist friends push them to lie; and so consensual sex gets re-branded rape after the fact; and the âjust believe herâ bullshit just makes the lying easier, as does a kangaroo court that is primed to punish the guy no matter what. Punish him, and she wonât bring a lawsuit; punish him and you protect the institutionâs federal dollars. In fact, to protect those dollars, youâve got to show convictions, so even if the woman changes her mind and says it wasnât rape, even if a third party made the accusation and she never said it was rape, you still punish the guy. The feminists, especially their white knight supporters like it this way. Feminists say we live in a rape culture, so every man is a rapist and no punishment is excessive. Iâve even heard a feminist say it doesnât matter if you punish the right man.
I wonder how the parents of boys feel, I mean the ones sane enough to not simply disown their sons on the accusation alone. (Pity the boys raised by Jody Allard.) Apparently at least 150 parents felt so strongly they went to court and won. Of course the only guys who can get justice in the courts are guys with very rich parents.
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People who donât pay attention have bad things happen to them. Been that way since 3 millenia before the common era. Women who get drunk get raped. You donât wanna get raped, pay fucking attention. Wake up, ladies.
Thank you for a classic example of âblaming the victim.â Sorry, but you are still (wildly and offensively) wrong.
And that attitude is responsible for more women getting raped than any other. By telling women that they do not have to exercise sensible judgement, they are convinced to become careless, and this leads to bad results.
And thank you again for another sterling example of blaming the victim. As well as being offensive in its own right and absolving the rapists of their responsibility. There is one and only one thing responsible for a woman getting raped: the person doing the raping. That you continue to pretend otherwise says a lot about you.