I’m still sifting through my mother’s paper/photo “collection” and she died in 2006. I did find a bill for my delivery ( $75 ). Would that be proof enough?
That’s the logical next question. But then we’re talking about an administration that doesn’t seem to have an answer to “if you refuse to reunite this child with their parents, then what?”
These deportation procedures must be extra Kafka-Esque for Americans. Do you ask Mexico to take you in as an asylee under the state-less persons provisions?
Every time that happens, I have to restrain myself from saying “my dude, you aren’t Greg” and then asking them in Hindi what their name actually is
40 yr olds being asked if they remember being born. WTF kind of question is that. This is such a waste of money and scary to boot. Some of the victims have been border patrol agents and police. It makes me wonder who is next.
ETA and FFS someone who has lived in this country their entire life should not be asked if their birth certificate is legitimate. How does one prove that?
Particularly when you can release your “long-form” birth certificate and that still won’t be guaranteed to quell the nonsense.
It is hardly a sure thing that Miller himself could prove his citizenship. Since my mother (now deceased) was born in Ukraine I am not sure that I would.
I sooo wish I could do that!
Recently I found my baptismal certificate. But it was signed by a noted lefty minister, so that’s no good. And my birth certificate is from a place that isn’t a state… And my grandfather’s birth certificate was burned up in an effing earthquake.
It terrifies me that germany, a country that most of my family fled, would probably be more welcoming.
It’s more than just the Mexican border:
“They were born in the United States to American citizen parents. Their
paternal grandfather, Lt. Colonel Edward C. Walsh, served as a career
U.S. military officer in the United States Air Force. Their maternal
grandmother, like seven of our 45 U.S. presidents, was born in a
frontier log cabin on American soil. Their grandmother is also a
registered tribal member of the Chickasaw Nation, as are their mother,
aunts, uncles & cousins. In other words, they are direct descendants
of American Indian family ancestors who have been here since long
before our Founding Fathers. They have never left the country, other
than a few childhood summer vacations in Nelson, B.C. (Back then, the
only documentation needed for travel to Canada was the children’s birth
certificates, to assure Canadian border patrol that the children were in
fact U.S. citizens, as they left to go back to their home in Washington
state.)”
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The above is the first paragraph of the article…
Apparently if you are a member of the Chickasaw Nation your citizenship is open to question. No matter that your family has lived in what became America for thousands of years. And a first generation American (trump’s mother was an immigrant) is denying native indigenous people their rights under the Constitution? So denial of citizenship is a problem near any of our borders apparently.
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I sooo wish I could do that!
[/quote]I just tell em they called the FBI field office here in Tucson.
This is nuts. I hate this.
When I was baptized the minister mispronounced and misspelled my middle name as Arian. I’m golden!
POC have been warning about this shit ever since Kobach wrote that ‘papers please’ ballot measure that passed in AZ. Once you legitimize that brown people can be stopped for being brown when whites would never get stopped, you’ve created a two tier existence in the country. Empowered white nationalists can use that to abuse civil rights, which is what the Trumpers are doing here.
Latino voters have to take this personal and vote Democratic up and down the ballot box. All this GOP bs is predicated on the assumption that Latinos won’t vote with high enough participation rates and high enough percentages to stop the GOP. This is the year to prove them wrong.
When Dad was in his last couple of years, he directed my sister to get all of their (his and Mom’s) paperwork together: birth certs, divorce decrees, wedding certificate… she has all that stuff. It took her the better part of a year to get it all together.
Interesting article. Like the kidnaping family separation policy it looks as though they have been trialling this for a while.
FWIW, The article gave me a strong whiff of “fundy Christian homeschoolers” ( cant quite put my finger on it, but it there are a lot of similarities with the account of birth certificate and passport acquisition in Educated by Tara Westover. Also the citizens profiled were born in northern CA and WA, but the Chickasaw reservation is in Oklahoma ). I wonder how this will play with that group.
Well I found my mother’s will ( don’t need at the moment) but why it isn’t in the safety deposit box I haven’t a clue.
My now ex-BIL is from the Valley in south Texas, they still have the land grant from the King of Spain. I wonder if that would do for him and his sister?
When my mother-in-law died, I found her will. Unsigned, unwitnessed, and therefore unusable.
WTF is wrong with people? And I’m not asking this lightly. I can understand the comments on FB and other forums because who knows who they are, but to ask a state legislator where he’s from is appalling, in Arizona where every single white person is a non-native.
Every word in my birth certificate is written in German.
These fuckers don’t want me to go Full Metal German on them.
Hey! Me too! I have almost double the average Neanderthal genes! That was the most exciting thing to come of my DNA analysis. The way they described my genetic makeup was that I was 98 or 99% northern and eastern European, with the straight H haplog, that I was more European than most of the Europeans of today. My ancestors all came over in the mid-19th Century.