Discussion: Volunteer Arrested After Border Agents Seen Dumping Water

Here’s the King James version, if that helps:

Matthew 25:35-40 King James Version (KJV)

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Destroying water supplies in the desert, knowing full well that they could be the difference between life and death, is tantamount to attempted murder. Morally, if not legally.

The fact that we are paying people to do that with our tax dollars, makes the nation as a whole complicit in these monstrous acts.

But I suppose this should not be surprising in a country that tolerates its leaders (of both parties) launching drone strikes against wedding parties and so on, justified by declaring all men of a certain age in certain areas as presumptive “enemy combatants,” and accepting the murder of innocent children as regrettable-but-acceptable “collateral damage.”

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ZERO interest in starting a fight on this - but - realistically - if they noted that it was there & left it - and it had in fact had been placed there by some sick-o racists and was toxic - they would also be totally culpable

The volunteer effort is laudable - but this is a humanitarian situation - that calls for a wise & verifiable form of formal compassionate humanitarian assistance regarding food & water.

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Well, my Grandmother was born in Georgia, and lived there until she was 10. I have also been to Georgia. There is poverty there–As there is in any state. And you don’t have to look very hard to find it–Just go to any busy 4 way intersection, and there will be people with handout signs. One Oregon community has gone so far as to make this against the law.

But some continue to “…clutch[ed] their pearls and co[a]me positively unglued.”

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Purposefully tainted water left by murderous racists is certainly plausible, and you’re right about the better solution, but as a practical matter I haven’t heard of any cases of poisoned water, and meanwhile there is no question that the water left by volunteers has saved many lives.

So yeah, the much better option would be tamper-resistant tanks with locked lids at the top for filling, and with a faucet at the bottom for the migrants to fill their own containers – not too easy to poison that way. But since the Feds certainly aren’t doing that, the least-worst option would be to leave the volunteer water caches alone.

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One of the great dangers is the politicization of Law Enforcement. The military feed the Law Enforcement personnel pipeline … when torture and other immoral actions infect the military it eventually appears in Law Enforcement. The combination is a real and present danger.

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The good folks at Remote Area Medical have done yeoman work over the years.

To think that we need our own version of UN relief or Doctors Without Boarders is appalling.

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Please stop claiming that the bible is some sort of moral authority. We don’t need religion or religious texts to know how to treat each other humanely. Besides, the bible is rife with rank barbarism, slavery, idiotic cosmology, misogyny, polygamy and most ludicrous of all, an insane god that routinely murders innocent humans, just because they rub it the wrong way. Just stop with the christianist nonsense. Thank you.

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Agreed. Although if he struck dead this old lady digging for pennies in front of me in the grocery line I’d be grateful. Anyone that hasn’t figured out how to procure a debit card attached to their checking account needs to leave the planet.

Playing a bit of devil’s advocate here in the interests of talking this thru: There’s no way for immigrants to ever know if any aid station is poison or not. The only responsible thing to do is to remove the random aid stations. Or to test them on the spot and leave them in place if clean and restore/practice don’t ask, don’t tell with regard to aid stations. I submit that this is the closest thing to acting humanely while not aiding and abetting extralegal immigration.

OK, have at it!

If this was even remotely the thought process of a ‘well intentioned’ border patrol officer, there would be documentation of them sending water samples to be tested.

While I can respect trying to see the full possibilities here, at this point, given with the way this administration is pushing the illegal immigration issues, thinking the border patrol is dumping water out for the safety of illegal immigrants is about as likely as believing that a [another] blatantly racist tweet from Trump is an accidental ‘typo’ or is “not what he meant to say”.

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GOP’s Pro Life position has more exceptions than the Rule Against Hearsay.

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“Do unto others before they do unto you” is the unfortunate trumpian interpretation of the entire bible…

Since the agents are putting people in danger of dying __ charge them with:

“Endangering the health and (safety?) of an organic”.

Organic includes: human, animal, plant.

Create this new crime.