Man. Remind me never to get on your wrong side.
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Thanks!
âSo because Iâm a big strong man with authority, I am going to slut shame her into complianceâ. Got it. Whatever happened to âcomtempt of courtâ and have her led out? Guess that just isnât sexist enough for you.
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See page 7 of the transcript. The judge had not completed speaking. He could barely get started because she repeatedly interrupted.
Patience? He gave her three warnings!
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Wow. Project much?
I was really struck by that, too.
Well maybe research that instead of jumping to conclusions first.
Seriously, people, youâre jumping to conclusions faster than Donald Trump after a plane crash. Look at the specific facts first and then form an opinion.
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The irony of judging a person based solely on appearance and one-sided facts then accusing that person of being a Trump supporter is, I take it, lost on you?
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No, sorry. When a judge says shut it, you shut it. All lawyers know that or ought to know it. Doesnât matter how right you are or how righteous your cause, how wrong the judge is, or how awful he or she is as a human being generally.
A judgeâs insistence on order and jealous regard for his power to control the courtroom isnât just about the judge power tripping or mindless authoritarianism. That tight control is essential because violence and chaos lurk just beneath the surface of large portion of the courtâs docket, both civil and criminal, and it can escalate out of control in the blink of an eye.
Courtrooms are arenas for conflict. Extreme tension is the norm, the kind of tension that leads to screaming arguments and fisticuffs and gunplay in the real world. Itâs all there, just waiting to happen in a huge percentage of even the civil cases heard, whether because the litigants hate each other or because one of the parties is a desperate accused criminal or because the lawyersânaturally disputatious peopleâhave formed a strong dislike for each other over the course of a hard case, as often happens (because both legal teams have to not be prime assholes for it not to happen and a significant percentage of lawyers are, in fact, prime assholes).
We all know the rules. When the judge says to STFU, you swallow your rage and STFU because he or she can and will throw your ass in jail, fine your ass into poverty or get your law license suspended if you donât. There are rare occasions when you are ethically compelled to make him or her put you in jail, but by and large you have to say âthank you sir, may I please have another,â even when the judge is a complete idiot or a borderline psychotic asshole. Because the alternative is the very thing we have courts to prevent, chaos and violence.
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Her client had been sentenced to 6 months when he was convicted months ago. That sentence was suspended pending the defendant fulfilling 4 requirements, including not getting re-arrested.
He failed all four, so the original sentence was put in place.
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Itâs manly men who go through life teaching all the âgirlsâ around him how to act, and theyâll also explain how mistaken that âgirlâsâ thinking is.
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She used to be a clerk for Harry ReidâŚso woman, minority woman, minority woman democrat defending the accusedâŚprobably a few straws too many for the troglodyte behind the bench?
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A judge who as a prosecutor successfully prosecuted ACORN.
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Thanks for the information.
Where did you get the transcript? I am simply relying on the story: Judge speaks, ends with period. She speaks, and he cuts her off. Who is interrupting whom?
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Proto hominid Scalia.
I agree- it doesnât matter if the judge was inappropriate or a jerk or whatever, His/Her Honor rules their courtroom.
He WAS a jerk, but unfortunately he can behave that way, for the very specific reasons ncsteve said above so eloquently.
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Sniffit linked to an article that has the actual complete transcript.
The lawyerâs interruptions and handcuffing are on page 7. She is released from handcuffs on page 9 after the judge finally gets to explain that the defendant has been given nearly every form of leniency and failed in every case.
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Yeah, calling any attorney by his or her first name is out of line when courtâs in session. But in lower division criminal courts where everybody knows everybody, it happens.
But I side with the fascist on this one. Everybody with a J.D. knows that when the judge says to shut up, you shut up unless youâre in one of those rare situations where you are ethically compelled to force him to hold you in contempt. Doesnât matter if he wonât listen to your argument and is just completely wrong. Doesnât even matter if heâs an authoritarian swaggering asshole. Youâre doing your client and yourself no good to ignore the command and thatâs why we have appellate courts.
Every bench has judges you absolutely hate to have to appear in front of because they are, in fact, rude, authoritarian, capricious, sadistic assholes. Merely typing that sentence made the faces of several of them (all thankfully retired now) pop up right before my eyes. But even then, you know as well as I do that when they say theyâre finished listening to you, you stop talking, difficult though it may be for us to do so.
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Decorum in the court room is a must! The judge kept trying and she kept interrupting, not a good choice!
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