Discussion: US Justified Drone Killings By Citing Al-Qaeda Law

First of all, his son was 16, not 14.

Second, the actual target of the strike that killed Abdulrahman al-Awlaki (the 16-year old son of Anwar al-Awlaki) was an Egyptian, Ibrahim al-Banna who was a leader in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).

In essence, this would be no different from a legal or ethical point than finding out (regrettably) after the fact that when Yamamoto’s plane was shot down during World War II, that Tojo’s American relative was onboard the plane.

Simply put, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time.

That said, it also opens up the pregnant question, what was he doing hanging out with a senior leader of al-Qaeda?

Good grief. Anwar al-Awlaki posted public videos for al-Qaeda and called for the killing of American civilians and soldiers. Anwar al-Awlaki wasn’t some fictional threat concocted in a vacuum.

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Article 3 section 3 of the US Constitution:
“Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”

From the article:
“Al-Awlaki had been involved in an abortive attack against the United States and was planning other attacks from his base in Yemen, the memo said. It said the authority to use lethal force abroad may apply in appropriate circumstances to a U.S. citizen who is part of the forces of an enemy organization.”

If a person (even a citizen) declares war against this country then they should expect to garner a drone. Just because a citizen declares war against America that does not offer any protection. And it should not. The Constitution, I believe, does not extend to Yemen where Awakai was living anyway. He was subject to Yemeni law, not American law. And the Yemenis wanted him dead.

First President that you know of …

And his 16 year old son was irredeemably tainted, and guilty of pre-crime.

@Finn13 is a testament to the sorry state of education in this country.

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Just to be totally clear . . .

Yes… you are both correct. And the son was not killed with his father.

The son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was not with his father when his father was killed on September 30, 2011. The son had been searching for his father but was killed on October 14, 2011 while sitting in cafe in Yemen.

“How a U.S. Citizen Came to Be in America’s Cross Hairs”
The New York Times. March 9, 2013

An American Teenager in Yemen: Paying for the Sins of His Father?"
Time. October 27, 2011.

Without factual proof of involvement, ,anyone who condones the son’s death, you share his blood that’s been spilled…

~OGD~

It’s nothing of the sort.

He wasn’t the target. He was collateral damage. This wasn’t a legal proceeding, it was a battle, and an innocent happened to be killed by a stray bullet, as happens often in war.

Who are you arguing with? No U.S. official has said that the boy was guilty of anything or that it was good that he was killed in collateral damage. Nobody stands for the position that this was good, so who are you fighting with?

If someone takes up arms against the United States, what should the response be if arrest and Mirandizing are not an available option? I’m truly curious about what you would do.

But had Al Awalki succeeded in one of his plots the right would have been screaming to BOMB BOMB Yemen and all the people he was hiding behind!

Unless it was DIck Cheney, then he (and John McCain) would be screaming bomb bomb Iran.

Aware that they were separate strikes. Anwar al-Awlaki was the target on one of the strikes, and Ibrahim al-Banna who was a leader in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) was the target of the one that killed Abdulrahman al-Awlaki (the 16-year old son of Anwar al-Awlaki).

And as I said, he was not the target and regrettable he was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.