Discussion: University Of Texas Removes 4 Confederate Statues Overnight

Ms. Ima was quite philosophical about …

Ima Hogg later recounted that “my grandfather Stinson lived fifteen miles [24 km] from Mineola and news traveled slowly. When he learned of his granddaughter’s name he came trotting to town as fast as he could to protest but it was too late. The christening had taken place, and Ima I was to remain.”[

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Perhaps someday in the future, any statues, paintings, or other tributes to the white supremacist neo-Nazi President Trump will also be removed.

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Now if we can just rename Lee COunty FL to Eel County.

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Yeah. My husband’s buddy would rather have left Robert E Lee in place and gotten the guns out. He’s totally freaked and, luckily, getting close enough to look at retiring a bit early as a result of the guns. He feels constantly under threat knowing that in his lectures there are a sizeable percentage who are toting.

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I met “Miss Ima” as she was called, the summer that she passed away. She was remarkable even at an advanced age.

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As long as the official portrait hangs in the staff toilet down in the basement, I am okay having it in the WH.

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Even better!

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He is worrying to much, a little grade inflation will get insecure ammosexual wankers in a better mood.

He came to visit us a few weeks ago and described a disagreeable (non-grade-based) situation with a student and said the whole thing left him shaking and a bit panicked.

As he said, how can you have discourse without conflicting opinions because you are scared shitless of someone taking it to the next level…?

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Miss Ima Hogg would make a great replacement. Her foundation is still doing good for the people of Texas.

Glad they didn’t take down the Hogg statue.

Boss Hogg may have been corrupt, but not a Confederate.

In fact he always had his sheriff chasing those guys with the confederate flag on their car.

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Good move. Hopefully more will follow suit, and also take a leaf from Austin in preserving some items in a museum setting.

Confederate statues have the unfortunate reputation of being artifacts of Civil War history. But this is not true. They are artifacts of Reconstruction – and a lesson to all that this period in Southern history is actually ongoing. A perennial overreliance on mythic glories is both a symptom and a vector of the South’s well-noted difficulties in social and economic development. To destroy these monuments is not to destroy Confederate history, but to obscure an as-yet unsettled antebellum history. For the good of the South, young people from that region must be exposed to their more immediate history through the modern lens, not through the warped spyglass the Daughters of the Confederacy hoped their works would be seen through.

I would recommend that every statue thus preserved be accompanied by a placard that shows what was happening in the world in the year the statue was dedicated. For instance: when this statue of a rebel slaver was erected, the Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan – or, women won suffrage – or the Nuremberg Trials commenced – or “Toy Story” premiered. We should recapture the history of white supremacy from a past beyond judgment, and lay it out for everybody that modern people were/are responsible for the times they live in.

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That’s the reason why I agree with the ACLU, once there are weapons present there is no free speech.

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It is worth noting that the Texas Sons of Confederate Veterans are still quite active in exporting monuments to the Union states, like this one from a mere ten years ago in Iowa. This is a deliberate effort to disgrace the Northern states that opposed them, and implicate them in the Confederacy.

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Hook 'em Horns!

So happy to see these statues come down. I have always wondered why someone who opposes US overseas military intervention is called a traitor by many, while part of our country is populated with shrines to some real traitors.

Well there were Unite the Right demonstrations totally outnumbered by counterprotesters in Houston and Dallas yesterday too.

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Good for them. Most of the “monuments” were not raised until about the 1920s when the South decided they had cultural and political means of continuing the repression of black people beyond slavery, e.g., Jim Crow.