Discussion: UK Trade Minister Says 'No Deal' Brexit More Likely Than Not

The UK appears to think they can move the cliff.

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What the UK needs is the intervention of someone who is universally regarded, someone who’s a master negotiator, someone well-steeped in the art of the deal, someone with brassy enough balls to step up and say “Only I can fix it.”

But where, oh, where will they find such a person?

This sounds like a job for El Pendejo Naranja!

What I don’t understand is why they can’t call a second referendum. The situation has changed since the original Brexit vote. The electorate has seen their government make a mess of it. And now the choices are simply between no-deal brexit or remain. The people must be asked to weigh on this new list of choices.

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You’ve already committed to driving in the direction of the cliff. Your passengers took a vote fifty miles ago, and the majority wanted to drive in that direction. It wouldn’t be seemly for you to hit the brake now.

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I wonder if Theresa May still holds out hope that special relationship w U.S. will cushion U.K. from pain of Brexit. If they cling to that illusion they might continue this game of chicken and that would be catastrophic.

“Iceberg dead ahead!”

“Full speed ahead; steady as she goes.”

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[quote=“tiowally, post:22, topic:75652”]
This sounds like a job for El Pendejo Naranja!
[/quote]If nothing else good comes from this at least I’ve learned a few words of Spanish.

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The people who voted stupidly need to learn their lesson. As an ex-Brit (>50 years) with loads of relatives in the UK-- they need to learn a lesson. And should it similarly hurt the EU-- they need to learn a lesson for being so stupid as to set up rules that caused some Brits to leave in the first place.

EU deserves what it gest if it rolls over to Putin here. Have a nice day England. China is looking for a new province in Europe. Why don’t you bring in 100 million Chinese to help settle down your country’s internal affairs?

I was on a rafting trip with a couple of Brits just a few weeks before the Brexit vote. They were good friends, but on opposite sides of the issue. We had lots of time so I asked them why.

The anti-Brexit guy talked about the economic problems that would occur if the UK split with the EU. The pro-Brexit guy talked about immigrants, the additional money a split would bring to the National Health Service, and (not kidding here) how irritated he was that the EU had high standards for imported bananas.

Looks like irreconcilable differences to me.

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If Syrians aren’t white, then neither are Serbs, Greeks, Spaniards or Italians. Are you white if Christian, but a person of color if you’re Muslim?

The UK’s problem is that it isn’t dealing with a partner whose only goal is negotiating the least disruptive split. The EU also has the goal of demonstrating to other member states that leaving the EU is a painful, foolish decision, and they can’t achieve that second goal as well as give the UK a favourable deal.

From the point of view of the leadership of the EU, having states start to bail on the union is a far worse outcome than the disruption of trade with the UK, so there is no way the UK was ever going to get the kind of deal that Farange and Johnson were promising during the campaign.

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“EU Intransigence at the bargaining table” is the problem? No, the problem is you decided to leave without a plan or a framework to negotiate in. British arrogance is going to really hurt a lot of people very soon.

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Or just another referendum. Nothing required Parliament to go with the results of the last one.

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Pride. That’s all it is. They could call for one, but they won’t. And once everything starts to fall apart, the Scots may well decide to hold another referendum on Secession. The Nordics consider Scotland a viking colony as it is.

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I love England but they will get what they deserve. The blatant sniveling is what I can’t stand. You wanted this, stop crying and take your medicine. When they screw everything up, hang the guilty from lampposts.

PS: I hope the Farm/Ranch scum in England and the US are destroyed and left destitute.

PPS: Buy foreign food whenever possible. F*CK the “Heartland” and the Trumpanzees that infest it.

Wamp Wamp! Those Brexit proud boys sure owned those libtard EUers. Youbetcha. Owned 'em real good.

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yes, if Brexit goes through, its only a matter of time before Scots will want out of the UK. It might even lead to Irish unification since the border between NI and Irish republic becomes untenable.
UK will just be England + Wales. Sad!