Discussion: Trump Still Ranting About Mueller Report, Hammers 'No Collusion, No Obstruction' Line

ahem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-a-legal-dispute-between-mueller-and-barr-drove-the-end-of-the-trump-probe/2019/04/19/1781807e-623e-11e9-9ff2-abc984dc9eec_story.html?utm_term=.fd9d2c5b2fa9

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It must be really hard for Donald to use Twitter on his smart phone with all of that stigmata going on.

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Trumpster: THE MULLER REPORT IS WHY Iā€™M FAT!!!

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Well, Maggie says sheā€™s sorry to Mitt. Eric Boehlert ainā€™t having it though.

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Donald Trumpā€™s Tweets are like a choose your own adventure book scrolled out into one long insane thread.

Choose one: A) The Mueller report totally exonerated you: Rant about how the report is right and anyone who thought it might not exonerate you committed treason. B) The Mueller report is a long litany of your obstruction of justice: Rant about how the report is bogus and anyone who contributed to it or believes it committed treason.

Choose one each day, preferably not the same as the day before. Consistency is not important, the important thing is to rant.

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Will admit, I am enjoying the idea that the orange one is still waking up with the Mueller Report first and foremost on his mind. Mueller laid it out, gave the detail. There is not place for Trumpskin to run and hide from that harsh and glaring light. Well, maybe he can hang out in a dark cupboard with the other cockroaches.

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Itā€™s behind a pay wall. Whatā€™s the gist? Barr shut Mueller down as some of us suspected?

Shhhhhhh! Donā€™t criticize Maggie too loudly!
After all, she is the icon of journamalistic ethics and integrity.

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To me the whole obstruction logic reads like a shitty argument against a conspiracy charge.

Prosecutor: You are charged with conspiracy.
Conspirator: How did you know?
Prosecutor: You left a bunch of evidence, it was extremely obvious, and a bunch of your assistants confessed.
Conspirator: If everyone KNOWS about it, it canā€™t be conspiracy, can it? Q.E.D., motherfucker!

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They probably gave Donald a copy printed on fried mozzarella sticks.

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Iā€™m slowly moving over to the Liz Warren marching and chowder society. This is a really good, easily understandable and portable summary of the Mueller Reportā€™s findings suitable for stump speeches.

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Funny, if I conspired with some fellow criminals to plan a bank robbery, and then a few weeks later I and my gang of thieves robbed a bank in broad daylight in front of multiple witnesses, and then got caught, and one of my fellow thieves confessed that we had been planning the robbery for weeks before we even committed the crime, I am fairly sure that we would not only be charged and convicted of robbing the bank but also for the conspiracy of planning the robbery of the bank.

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Iā€™ll use this f*ckers term. ā€œBULLSHIT.ā€

I have a government clearance, and if I had even one meeting with someone I knew or suspected was a Russian agent, didnā€™t report it, and then lied about it when questioned, I would be spending years, possibly decades in prison; not to mention losing my job and never being employable in government service again.

So, yeah tRump is BULLSHIT.

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Itā€™s extremely convoluted and the article makes it more so. Basically Mueller believed that a long-standing policy that you couldnā€™t indict a sitting President meant that he couldnā€™t recommend charges, and Barr disagreed in that he wanted Mueller to decide himself. Is the best I can glean from it. Also that Mueller disagreed with Barrā€™s 19 page memo saying that Trump could never be guilty of obstruction, but itā€™s not clear to me if thatā€™s the disagreement the headline refers to.

The article says that one reason Mueller didnā€™t want to recommend charges is that it would be unfair to do so without the subject being able to defend himself. Which stems from the unusual nature of it being the President, in keeping with why he allowed him not to be questioned in person.

Cutting through the fog, I have no doubt whatsoever that were Mueller not a staunch Republican he would have accused Trump of criminal obstruction of justice. Not a shadow of a doubt. Thereā€™s clearly tons of discretionary wiggle room, and it all wiggled in Trumpā€™s favor.

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Anxiety, Frustration, and Anger are Donnieā€™s emotions of choice.

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Who are these ā€œ13 (18) Angry Democratsā€ we keep hearing about? What number is ā€œ13 (18)ā€?

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I am going to cheat and steal a couple of graphs from the piece:

The unusual ending to the investigation stems from akey legal disagreement between Muellerā€™s team and Barr ā€” opening the door to further political fights over presidential power, Justice Department policies and decision-making inside the Trump administration.
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The redacted Mueller report released Thursday makes clear that he and his prosecutors viewed the OLC opinion to mean they also could not come to a conclusion about whether the president had committed a crime because it would violate Justice Department standards of fairness to make such an accusation ā€” even secretly ā€” without giving the person a chance to fight the accusation.

Barr disagreed.

In releasing the report Thursday, the attorney general told reporters that Justice Department officials asked Mueller ā€œabout the OLC opinion and whether or not he was taking the position that he would have found a
crime but for the existence of the OLC opinion.ā€

It then goes on to say that Barr pushed wanting a ā€œrulingā€ rather than the approach taken by the Mueller team. Most of the discussion is about the difference in reading the OLC guidance between Barr and the Mueller team.

I am not seeing the direct link to how this might have hastened the end of the probe Hopefully one with more of a legal mind can and paywall access can give a more accurate summary.

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Happy Easter weekend to you Mr Foulmouth. Keep getting nastier and Iā€™ll keep watching the religious right claim youā€™re a godly man.

Have we impeached this motherfucker yet?

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One thing that really stopped me in this rant was how he said the investigationā€™s number of Angry Democrats was 13 (18). Heā€™s been flipping between those numbers but here he just throws them both out like heā€™s acknowledging that none of this mess is intended to correspond to anything in that dim, foggy shadow world we normals call ā€œreality.ā€

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Canā€™t wait to read his Easter/Passover tweet. Iā€™m sure it will focus on his crucifixionā€¦

Iā€™m good with that. But this time letā€™s leave out the Resurrection.

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