Discussion: Trump Says U.S. Should Expel Migrants Without Due Process

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I am looking forward to when the real panic sets in.
[/quote]I feel nausea more than I feel anticipation.

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He is feeling more than usually shriveled at the moment due to his climb down over family separation, so of course he has to intensify the bluster. I don’t think this is even for his base, but himself. His life is a perpetual struggle to stave off his self-doubt and inadequacy.

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Demonizing immigrants -all immigrants -is clearly his strategy to mobilize his base for the midterms, no matter the damage to the fabric of America. And cowardly Congressional Republicans will continue to do nothing.

So all good people must vote in November to send him the message that the vast majority are repulsed by this and find it completely unacceptable. As George Will said, vote for Democrats only as if our democracy depends on it, because it does.

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But it sets the stage in people’s mind that we don’t need these democrats, vermin, rats they are not patriotic as “My People”. Oh it cost a lot of money to incarcerate “these people”, I have a final solution.

They came for ____ and I did not speak,
They came for me and noone was left to speak.

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It’s true. But I don’t think there are enough of them to do much more than take over a government building in the middle of nowhere and start asking for someone to send them sex toys and French Vanilla coffee creamer.

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You and me both…

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That is what he says and his fanatic base loves it. They are a very small minority of the population. His unalloyed support comes from only about 9.5% of the population. Those are the people who will vote for him regardless,

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“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

[U.S. Constitution, Amendments, Article XIV, Section1]

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Looks like they’re getting ready to defy a court order and then a contempt order. Then what?

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Come on, international community, charge him/us with human rights violations, impose some sanctions, and take the US off every invite list you’ve got. I don’t welcome the pain the rest of us will have to experience once this happens, but lancing the boil that is Trump will be compensation enough.

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The premise of that statement is he actually knows and understands the Constitution… and he doesn’t. But his mental, his worldview, everything inside his orange fuckedup skull is inherently and fundamentally anti-Constitution, so everything he vomits out of his butt hole mouth and everything he does is to shred the Constitution, by design.

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“Due process” has long been mostly for those who can afford to pay for it.

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President Donald Trump on Sunday proposed violating U.S. and international law by deporting “people [who] invade our Country,”

We could also shoot them and stack them in box cars like cordwood. Much more efficient.

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Any official who has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution and laws should disavow it unequivocally.

Like, for example, the President!

He is perjured, forsworn.

And a traitorous lying idiot besides.

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This should send a chill up everyone’s spine. Be afraid. He may be calling for the elimination of due process for people many don’t give a rat’s ass about, but some day he may be calling it for you and yours. This is how it starts. First they came for the…

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Two Scoops seems to be stoking this matter rather than letting it fade from memory. I wonder what he sees as the end game? Does he think it will rally his base leading into the November elections more than it will rally opposition voters?

I’ve read that his approval numbers are at 45% now :confused:

Is the fix in?

And from Raw Story

Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, reportedly offered to spill secrets that were known only to himself and special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

According to Politico Playbook, Warner made the remarks on Friday at an annual Democratic Party dinner hosted at Martha’s Vineyard.

“If you get me one more glass of wine, I’ll tell you stuff only Bob Mueller and I know,” he joked. “If you think you’ve seen wild stuff so far, buckle up. It’s going to be a wild couple of months.”

It wasn’t immediately clear if Warner broke any news about the Russia investigation at the event.

I’ll get you a case of good Oregon Pinot Mark…

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He was a developer. For him, law (usually land use regulations) isn’t something you follow; it’s something you get around usually with the help of lawyer/fixers and well placed political contributions.

That’s why he has no respect for the law or conventional politicians. For 40 plus years he’s gotten around laws by paying off politicians. No he’s the top politician and he expects the rules he’s operated under his entire adult life to apply to the nation as a whole. So far it’s worked just fine for him.

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A few papers have been saying, “His approval is so much higher than it has been!” That’s a little misleading, at best: his overall approval average has been holding steady at 41-42.5% for the past six-seven weeks see here. They’ve been in this range before, too, back toward the beginning of his time in office.

At least part of what’s driving the solidity of this new range is that the Republican party is not only supporting him but digging in their support: he now enjoys a 90% approval rate among Republicans. See the Times piece here.

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Too bad we missed the chance to send Fat Nixon’s grandparents back to the shithole country they came from.

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I don’t recall having had a national discussion sufficient to establish what is good immigration policy. It’s clear that some people think it means nobody but off-pink evangelicals should be allowed in.

Jaywalking and speeding is also a mockery to Law and Order. But we allow it and do it all the time.

This “most children come without parents” bit needs substantiating facts. There have been waves of unaccompanied minors over the years. Has anybody read statistics that suggest it is the current norm?

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