Discussion: Trump: Odds Of Lawmakers Making Funding Deal I'd Accept 'Less Than 50-50'

Kevin McCarthy makes Paul Ryan look like Nancy Pelosi.

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tRUmpā€™s idea of negotiating is walking into a signing meeting after his staff has struck the deal. Then as people are signing heā€™ll stop and say ā€œone more thingā€. The demand is usually outrageous, already discarded, or some other nonsense. It is his way of saying ā€œI struck the dealā€. From my experience, being on the other side of that table, he gets his way if we just donā€™t care. However, the vast majority of the time we say no. He then goes into the rant, rage routine, as we are now seeing. That also usually does not work.

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That is NOT snark.

As long as Senate Leader McConnell sticks to his pledge not to bring any immigration motion to the floor for a vote the president will veto, all Pres. Trump needs is a failed joint conference committee and 10 U.S.C. Ā§ 284 to build as many walls as he deems necessary without shutting down the government or declaring a national emergency.

Trump has trouble accepting that No means No. It meant No in December, means no in January, and it will mean no in February.

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The guy ran a successful casino operation. He knows odds.

Nice try, David. Will go as far as your ā€œtwo citizen parentā€ birther nonsense went in getting Obama out of office (and good luck trying that with Kamala Harris). Drugs donā€™t come in across deserts and rivers with no roads. You canā€™t bring in meaningful amounts that way. Follow the El Chapo trial-they come in by the truckload through ports of entry. And lets stop blaming other countries for our drug problems. Itā€™s demand driven by Americans-capitalism says where there is a demand, there will be a supply.

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Heā€™s all huf and puf. There is no way he can risk a veto override. That would be the end of him, and he knows it. Heā€™ll settle - for zero, if pushed. Better to allow him something to save face, though.

A permanent legislative solution for the Dreamers and refugees is the bare minimum if he gets any permanent structures. No temporary fixes in exchange for even one foot of fencing/slats/wall, whatever.

I love it when a failed casino owner uses gambling analogies. Roll those dice America!

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Awesome.

Iā€™m going to make a little prediction here and letā€™s see if Iā€™m right. I predict that Spanky will commit an impeachable offense in his lust to secure ā€œa winā€ with this wall thing.

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Ask Mulvaney how the president shutting down the structure of government and creating chaos among our allies abroad is defending the nation.

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the GOP has done this for him

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letā€™s not forget the plentiful meth labs in ā€œAmericaā€™s Heartlandā€ either

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In the words of a real Presidentā€¦

ā€œPlease proceedā€¦ā€

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This shutdown really damaged McConnell. He has three choices.

  1. Push Trump to declare a national emergency and then sign whatever spending bills are passed by Congress.

  2. Actually vote for spending bills that provide a veto proof majority (as happened in December) and force Trump to eat it.

  3. Repeat this same nonsense of not sending up a bill to the WH that Trump wonā€™t sign and repeat the shutdown.

#3 would be a disaster for the GOP and the country.

#2 would be actual governance but would put the Senate GOP at odds with Trump on an important matter and effectively represent a clean break which the GOP has always feared would hurt them with the base.

#1 Would solve Congressā€™ problem but underscore Trumpā€™s issues of weakness, impotence, and the sense that he is out of touch.

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so if I hear you correctly, theyā€™ll choose #3.

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#3ā€™s not going to happen. McConnell already got burned doing that. Heā€™s not going to rush into a replay

My guess is that he thinks that negotiating equals weakness. Anyone who has negotiated anything In a professional context has dealt with a bully like him. They think that they can make offers that arenā€™t actual offers and that the other side will fold. In this case you mix in the sexism of dealing with a woman and it is, once again, the bully trying to get everything and offer nothing.

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Well at least Putin and Treacherous Trump got something, Trumpā€™s Moscow
hotel wet dream funding source released from sanctions while we werenā€™t
looking. Thanks Mitch and Republicans, no vote to open OUR government but OK a
favor for Putin and his Pawn? Traitors !