Discussion: Trump: I Think Dems 'Will Be Blamed' For My Decision To Sabotage O'Care

I’ve seen the test so I sincerely wish you all the luck in the world and hope you pass it and then go out and knock 'em dead.

4 Likes

Great! With such a warm invitation to deal, let’s lower the Medicare age to 60 next year. 55 in 2019 and 50 in 2020. Let’s also open up a public option to the Federal Employees’ Plan, at the same premiums and coinsurances, to every employee of every organization that offers health insurance. Let’s require such organizations to pay the employer’s portion of FEP to Medicare, for each eligible employee who chooses to enroll.

3 Likes

Trump: I Think Dems ‘Will Be Blamed’ For My Decision To Sabotage O’Care

If that happens, the Democrats will have no one to blame but themselves, because this one is easy to counter.

Just pull out a copy of Trump’s autographed Executive Order and ask who signed it.

2 Likes

Good luck, nymund. We would be lucky to have you as a citizen of our country.

4 Likes

Actually, there is a lot of disagreement on issues among the commenters here. Some enjoy the discussion, some just like to argue, and some seem open to others’ viewpoints.

But as far as “what should the Democrats do about this,” I really don’t know. Understandably, a lot of frustration comes out when discussing this particular topic, and for good reason.

We’ve seen Republicans commit political malfeasance for years – most flagrantly and outrageously upon the election of President Obama – - without paying any apparent political penalty; they now control the executive and legislative branches of the federal government, and a majority of state governments.

And after witnessing eight years of Republican obstruction, I understand why many would be impatient with calls for bi-partisanship. And with so much under attack by this administration, I can understand the impatience with incremental progress.

I think we need to do what we do best: build coalitions.

The direction and agenda of this administration and this Congress – to tear away at the social safety net, to focus on the desires of the donor class to the detriment of the needs of working and middle class , to reverse progress made on civil rights, criminal justice reform and protections for ethnic, racial and sexual minorities, and to undo regulations meant to protect the public against unfair business practices and environmental damage – will create natural allies for us.

If we can be inclusive and respectful of these various interests and communities we can build a strong and progressive coalition that represents the majority.

2 Likes

Where are all the interviews with the people who obtained lifesaving care because of the ACA and may now lose it? Reporters allow Rs to talk about “all the people harmed by O care” without correcting them. Or, without pointing out that when Rs talk about “Obamacare imploding” they are referring to the Individual exchanges which is about 8% of the market. The way it’s discussed, there are probably people that think that 1/2 of counties in the US have one or no insurers. It’s really quite maddening.

For that matter, why don’t Democrats put together some of the many people who were helped–it would help remind voters that Democrats gave them the thing that Republicans are trying to take away. That would include the pre-existing conditions part, the essential benefits, the fact that most people get subsidies for those "skyrocketing premiums)

2 Likes

Will do!

1 Like

Thank you kindly for saying so. I genuinely believe in the fundamental decency and goodness of America in spite of our current woes and tribulations.

1 Like

Moron Care

1 Like

Exactly - not a legitimate election. Mueller, we are counting on you…

1 Like

The stones on this guy are only outsized by his ignorance of how Karma works.

I remember when Bill Clinton was running for president and his team, headed by the not-so-politically-correct James Carville, set up a “war room” where they constructed immediate and hard-hitting responses to every Republican criticism. It was quite effective, and it got their message out there constantly.

There’s no reason why the Democrats can’t add more muscle to their messaging. I’d like to see them go back to the 50-state strategy, too.

3 Likes

Trumpcare.

A really bad system that’s not his fault. He’s just running it into the ground, because it doesn’t hurt anyone he cares about.

Christian values, or so conservatives say.

1 Like

Psychopaths and sociopaths are identical. When I quit criminal law the then-current moniker was antisocial character disorder. All the same thing.

2 Likes

@squirreltown Ah squirrel, I see you’ve made it all the way upstream. Did you pick up any rivets?

1 Like

@erik_t Very fundamentally, he doesn’t know what stocks are! It’s mind-boggling.

Don’t forget, this asshole managed to run a fucking CASINO into the ground. That takes a special kind of stupid.

4 Likes

'Will no one rid me of this meddlesome prick?"

1 Like

I just heard something amazing on MSNBC’s Laurence O’Donnell show: David Jolley, a Republican Congressman from Florida who lost to Charlie Crist last year, said the best hope for the country would be for the Democrats to take the House next year and provide a check to Trump.

He noted, “The Republicans have no discernible agenda worth saving, and the Democrats can provide a check on Trump that the Republicans so far have not offered.”

I was stunned.

6 Likes

That’s it in a nutshell. Screw the “electoral map” for the Senate, the gerrymandering, Trump seats vs Hillary seats. People gotta get out and vote, en masse, and throw the gop out of Congress and the State Houses, impeach Trump, Pence, Trump’s Cabinet, and Gorsuch, install Nancy Pelosi as the President, then have a real election in 2020 and elect who I don’t know, somebody real smart who doesn’t want to be President but really cares about our country and people, and can handle the job. Maybe John Kerry could take a swing, or some damn liberal governor from somewhere, I just don’t know who the Democrats have, but we need a liberal Clinton/Gore.

You don’t think at all, Donald. It’s one of your most obvious handicaps.

Comments are now Members-Only
Join the discussion Free options available