Discussion: Trump Goes Back To Drawing Board On Taxes, Seeking GOP Consensus

Defunding Social Security will not appeal to Dems.

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You need to stop the fantasy.

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I agree but the fantasy is not where Americans probably want us to go, but that anyone tied to the Washington establishment sees the need to enact any of fgs planks. They will argue that they will all blow up the deficit and don’t impact Washington grifters directly with enough money.

I am really convinced America’s elites are working hard to turn America into an impoverished 2nd world country. Damn near every move they make seems aimed at making sure they survive in style what they expect to be a coming American collapse.

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Cutting payroll taxes is a trick and I hope Democrats don’t fall for it. Cutting payroll taxes with just allow the Republicans to say SS and Medicare are failing quicker and need to be privatized or some such non-sense.

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I wish real life were a DVR and I could skip ahead to the train wreck we all know is coming.

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You know about those little computer programs that you can use to help plan redecorating your living room? That’s what these tax plans are like, except they are not redecorating the living room, but the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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So some rural areas are depressed because their taxes are too high?

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Driving policy making while on a bumper car concession.

Fool me once… Reagan’s magic revenue unicorns and VooDoo economics. And deficit blow up.
Fool me twice…Shrub/Chenney’s “It’s our due”. And another deficit blow up.
Fool me a third time? What’s the punch line, people? What? WHAT?

Gobbledy Gook in, Gobbledy gook out. Three "Hail Mary"s and one hundred "Tax Reform"s and it’s the same as it ever was: Budget buster tax cut for the rich.

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[quote=“douglashh, post:25, topic:54157, full:true”]Cutting payroll taxes with just allow the Republicans to say SS and Medicare are failing quicker and need to be privatized or some such non-sense.
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We saw this in AHCA as well. It’s on the first couple of pages of the playbook: do something to screw-up the financial position of SS, Medicare, or Medicaid so they can then say “See? They’re broken. Time to eliminate them.”

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For decades, Republican dogma was that WE MUST CUT TAXES and that doing so would SUPERCHARGE THE ECONOMY. Neither of these things is true. So a political party basing policy on them will always fail.

The Republicans’ real problem is that they are wrong on the merits of nearly all policy disputes. They cannot govern because their whole worldview is flat wrong. Unfortunately the U.S. electorate keeps putting them in power, where they flail and lie and screw everything up till the Dems get back in power to fix it.

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Closing in

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yeah, they got nothing. They put all their eggs into hoping the ACA repeal was going to work and now it’s clear they never had a backup plan and are going to be unable to come up with one in the near future. Reality itself abhors their plans.

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Again, they have no plan of governance. They seem to feel that they are there to change specific issues and then everything else is ignored. So having a plan is pretty much a non-option. Like thieves in the night, they get in, get out, damn the consequences.

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Just like tort reform. They got it, the docs had a plus, the insurers had a plus, but lets look at medical costs and availability for the end user. You would think premiums would have lowered substantially but I don’t they did.

This is DOA. These ideas are hopelessly bad.

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Teehee…At least someone’s using their noggin towards something useful.

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Maybe, and I’m just spit ballin’ here, I’m not as wise as Trounce and the Tax Slashers but wouldn’t it be better to give those people good jobs as opposed to cutting payroll taxes since they don’t have jobs, hence no payroll?

I swear, I think that the Repubs think that taxes are just imposed for funsies and so the government can get fat. I don’t think that they really get what all the taxes are doing and that it even benefits them, like with their fricking job.

And considering the deficit, fat isn’t what we are.

They are trying to repackage tax cuts again and damage the safety net again and hoping not to provide one real job whilst doing it.
They aren’t going back to the drawing board, they don’t own a drawing board. They are going back to look for better packaging and pretty gift wrapping for the same old turd that they’ve been offering up for years.

Reagan cut taxes-then proceeded to raise taxes like 8 or 12 more times but the middle class still got the shaft. Bush cut taxes and the world economy sank and isn’t right yet. And dummy bush is now persona non grata.
How, in the name of Reagan’s Ghost can that loser of an idea be trotted out again?

Bring back jobs you orange stain, tax cuts aren’t detouring ISIL or providing cheap healthcare and tax cuts aren’t jobs.
President ADD can’t focus for a day on keeping his word. He bounces around like a super ball on steroids
What politician in their right mind would get in bed with this freak?

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