Discussion: Trump Boosts Coal As China Takes The Lead On Climate Change

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Proving once again why Donald Trump is a total uneducated, uninterested, unthinking dolt:

This is happening worldwide and Donald is promising coal miners to restore their jobs. Na Ga Happen Donnie. Keep pushing that rope.

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The BBC has a nice ABC… article about the summit

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Where to begin …

Once again, Trump’s blinkered, reactionary outlook and uninformed policies threaten our standing in the world and our commitment to leading the way in innovative approaches to challenges.

Under president Obama we:

• Got automakers to voluntarily boost fuel standards for cars and trucks;
• Reached a historic climate change agreement with China to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions – a first for China – and provide 20 percent of its energy from renewable sources by 2030;
• Got an understanding with India on greenhouse gas emissions;
• Got Walmart, the nation’s largest private employer, to commit to getting half of its energy from renewable sources; and

  • Got almost 200 countries — including China, the world’s largest carbon polluter — to pledge to address climate change.

And while Trump champions steamship technology in the 21st century, China is looking beyond coal, is crafting a massive cap-and-trade policy, and is poised to wrest leadership in renewable energy from the US.

At best, Trump will put us in the dustbin of failed states. At worst, he will make us a pariah nation.

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The total amount of people left working in the coal industry is less than those working at Arby’s. That includes the office workers and other related jobs in the coal mining industry. Robert Murray, the CEO of America’s largest privately owned coal company. His words to Trump concerning coal jobs during a February White House visit:

“I suggested that he temper his expectations. Those are my exact words. He can’t bring them back.”

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China has become the leader on solar panels and alternative energy. They are going to laugh at Trump about his trying to bring coal back. Coal workers were conned by Trump.

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Not entirely on topic but shows how little work he puts into the job which allows other countries to take the lead we traditionally had in international affairs. “Non-work time” overwhelms anything else. This represents only his first month, and there’s no reason to believe he’ll spend any more time at work ever. “Tweeting” for 13 hours is a category of its own.

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Yes, and there are over 600,000 American jobs in renewable energy.

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Lazier than GW Bush.

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Holy shit.

Golfing: 25 hours
Tweeting: 13 hours
Intelligence briefings: 6 hours

This should be going up on billboards in Trump areas. No commentary, just the facts.

Edited to add:

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If I had to, I’d say I preferred twit storms versus press conferences if yesterday’s half crazed few minutes is the best he can do.

I don’t see the time Trump spends getting briefed via Fox News, Breitbart and the National Enquirer accounted for.

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Hopefully Erik Prince is hooking him up with a back channel to Obama.

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It isn’t where Trump thinks it belongs, in “Intelligence Briefings”, or that would be 100 hours instead of just 6.

Or to reality.

Decency, though, is out of reach, even if Erik Prince were able to figure out where it is.

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Non work time in the White House (239 hours Sleeping and watching FoxNews).

o/t but wanted to share somewhere. This morning Laura Rozen’s twitter feed has been afire. Jumping from Nunes, Bannon, and internationally to UNSecurity Council (about Syria) and Putin responses to Trump and Netanyahu chastizing that each is to quick to condemn the Syrian Govt as “baseless claims”. Highly recommend browsing her morning tweets.

Laura Rozen on Twitter

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China is now the largest source of air pollution on the planet. Their use of coal, while set to be phased out in the long run, is responsible for seasonal bad air over Japan and now the West Coast of the U.S. Further, the Chinese government, once omnipotent, did nothing to check the growth of auto culture. The Chinese had the opportunity to leapfrog the power source of the 19th Century twenty years ago, but chose expediency. And people think they are still commies.

The red is bad.

Like the US government did? Or how should I understand that ?

China is 3 x the population of the USA, I doubt they polute 3 x as much …

No. You want him unscripted in front of the camera as much as possible. Unlike his campaign rallies and “victory” rallies where he just recycles red meat sound bites, it’s good to see him unable to provide coherent answers when asked policy specific questions. But, yes, his Tweets are useful.

Let me guess, you were born after 1970?

So, you believe that the U.S., other than in the service of national defense, had at some point in it’s history some sort of centralized energy policy? That the U.S., up until recently, had an authoritarian socialist government? Do you also believe that “nigger” should have been removed from Huckleberry Finn because of current sensibilities?

Not yet, but they will.

The concept of air pollution, even in LA up until the 1960s, was considered only a local issue - steel towns like Pittsburgh, oil and chemical towns like Houston. There was no such thing as “environmentalism” until pretty much the first Earth Day.

The point, lost on you, was that China’s late development meant that they could have chosen a different path for energy having about 40 years of modern Western development to learn from. The same is true for India. Instead, China chose expediency and we are now all paying the price.

http://blogs.nicholas.duke.edu/thegreengrok/a-tale-of-two-air-quality-programs-china-vs-the-u-s/