Discussion: Theresa May Won't Admit Defeat For Brexit Deal Despite Deadlocked Talks

This is irritating. Why not pass out free razors?

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Yes–except that May has couched this–and even, for that matter, another Brexit referendum–as an alleged flouting of the people’s will as expressed in the first referendum.

Her continuing insistence on honoring that result, in the face of the ever-clearer evidence that Brexit will be an enormous political and economic error, is a shocking failure of leadership. Surely she can see this. But she insists on painting herself in a corner that hardly anyone wants her to be in anymore. Do what’s for the greater good of the UK, and let the political chips fall where they will. The hardliner Brexiteers can go sit in that corner by themselves.

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My cousin would say, “What’s her sign?”

[the one for bullheadedness]

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There is an entire genre of British press devoted to bashing Corbyn. Labour has been all over the map on this, but then they are the only party to have an MP shot and killed over the issue.

The current platform e.g. states:

Labour respects the result of the referendum, and Britain is leaving the EU. But we will not support any Tory deal that would do lasting damage to jobs, rights and living standards.

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Or, as one of the Remainers, she’s been playing a remarkably good show for everyone while guaranteeing that everything would come down to the wire and fall apart, leaving a default of Remain.

Wouldn’t put it past her. She was with Cameron all the way up the ladder… And would have to take the fall for it after, but could lock in a Remain on her way out.

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I am frankly surprised she has lasted this long. She’s obviously over her head, and the only explanation for her survival is that there is no in the Opposition who can persuade people that they would do a better job.

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True, but I think you can go farther. It’s one of the greatest own-goals in history. Period. It has to rank up there with starting The Great War. On reflection, WW I is the greatest of all political own-goals, because everyone scored an own-goal there.

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She already survived one back in December or January.

There’s nobody else who will touch the job right now until the Brexit issue is resolved one way or another.

Everyone sees it (rightly so) as the kiss of death for their career.

I expect she’ll artfully cancel the whole damned thing, either literally, or by putting some never-ending extension on it, then promptly resign.

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Yes–I’d forgotten that she had started out, publicly, as a Remainer. That still leads me to ask why, if what you say is true, she wants to play this game of three-card monte with the political health of her own party and the diplomatic and economic health of her nation.

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Brit newspaper cartoonists savage May in a way that American newspaper would never dare a much more deserving Trump

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If she is playing that, then this is the way to do it. Demonstrate to everyone that there can’t be any consensus on the actual terms of Brexit, leaving the default that you have to stay after all (while avoiding a second referendum which may end up who knows where, especially since the first referendum should never have been allowed to happen).

And the EU played right along, offering Britain the unilateral right to withdraw the Article 50 notification, without consulting anyone else. So they’ve been making it extremely easy for Britain to make the ultimate choice to stay.

But with enemies like Corbyn starting fires all over the place (while not actually tying himself down to anything), you’ve got to play hardball and brinksmanship.

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“Brexit will go down as one of the greatest political own goals in modern European history.”

Bingo! Amazing that Cameron would have so carelessly let loose a referendum on such an important constitutional issue simply to placate the Ukip wing of his party without putting boundaries around it – something on the order of requiring 70% of eligible voters to cast ballots and a 60% passage rate.

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Double agreed. Should never have allowed it, and if, the bar for something so permanent and drastic should be very high.

AND, all of the citizens living in other countries (i.e. the ones being directly affected by Brexit) MUST be allowed a vote. It was shameful that they weren’t.

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This is not about doing the right thing for the UK, it’s about May clinging to office.

She painted herself into this corner to satisfy the ERG (racist UKIP members pretending to be Tories) and the DUP (10 Ulster unionists propping up her minority government). Without their votes, her government would fall.

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I can’t be the only one who is reminded of the Monty Python sketch where the fellow is insisting that the parrot he was sold is dead. After much denial back and forth, the seller says, “He’s not dead. He’s pining for the fjords.” (Maybe wishing for the Norway alternate to a full Brexit?"

Can’t believe British voters aren’t clamoring for a re-vote, since they were obviously fraudulently sold a dead parrot of a Brexit. We only wish we had such a do-over on dead-parrot Trump.

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There have been quite a number of very large marches and protests.

And Parliament has diligently ignored every single one.

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Except they had a civil war over that very proposition that lasted 30 years.

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I mean a vote of no confidence. And yeah resigning is really her only other option.

Britain’s still in denial because the pot hasn’t boiled over yet. But it will.

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Well, that won’t happen because the only other option is Corbyn, whom nobody wants. And he doesn’t want it until Brexit is done with anyways… From the opposition he’s able to scream and whine and not get locked into anything substantive, which is where he prefers to be.

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Brexit is the best argument against a national referendum system. Sounds good in theory until you start asking the average person to vote on international trade policy or make some other decision that should be left to their elected representatives.

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