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Thatās the nature of the media, though. Beat something into the ground.
Iām still waiting for Mr. Wilmore to address the protests against Senator Sanders, though.
The protests are working. Sanders has put up new policy measures on his website and has hired an african american woman on his staff. I have been watching a lovely woman named Alizia Garza who is the founder of BLM. She is a bright elegant woman who has been explaining their reasons on many programs on MSNBC. Black americans have had it up to their ears and want to be heard instead of taken for granted. She said in response to Ari Melber the other night when he asked her if they were concerned this might be causing problems and she said āPower concedes nothing without demandā.
Also, he asked her if they had plans to disrupt the republicans and she said they plan to disrupt every candidate. If you recall Trump made fun of the fact that the group took the microphone from Bernie as if to say they would never do that to him but I am sure they have plans for him also.
And, if they had asked Senator Sanders nicely, he would have done the same thing, and knowing Senator Sanders, the addition of the policy measures was something forthcoming anyway.
No, I get that this is about grabbing headlines, but so far, they havenāt seemed to try to disrupt any Republicans. A column on The Daily Beast noted that protests accomplish very little. In fact, part of why the Civil Rights Movement accomplished very little in the 1950ās is a lack of access to the corridors of power. However, between the protests and the lobbying (lots and lots of lobbying) and the access that having a Presidential ally meant, legal measures ending discrimination were passed.
It was heavily noted that, after the last protest disrupting Senator Sanders, a lot of people were furious and the mood among those who came to hear Senator Sanders speak was vicious and in some cases on social media very hateful. Thatās the problem. Protests disrupting those who are allies and who would be willing to amp up the message if asked politely can result in a loss of potential allies among that personās audience.
Weāll apparently itās going to continue and if you read my response above, the head of the organization has said they will be disrupting all the candidates. It is more difficult to get close to Hilllary because her rallies are pretty closed to the public and by invite only and she has secret service around her at all times.
I think this is a perfect example of how little we as white people understand how deeply the black community feels about this issue and that the Michael Brown murder was the straw that broke the camelās back. Latinos have coalesced together to make their voices heard on immigration and black americans are trying to do the same thing.
Chammyā¦I ran into this with the LGBT Community, and as a trans woman, I understand a lot about it given how many of my sisters out there are being raped and murdered by these very police, and many of them are trans women of color. Iām furious about this issue, but at the same time, Iām also someone who looks at how to do things most effectively. One of the first stories I covered when I worked as a journalist was the murder of a trans woman in Tennessee. The police had been harassing her as a āprostituteā and when she turned up dead, no investigation was ever fully conducted. I covered dozens of those over the years I worked as a journalistā¦not to mention the case of a police officer who got suspended with pay for the rape of two trans women.
It just upsets me when a good message gets destroyed by people who donāt want to think about things like how awful it looks to disrupt a candidate who has a long history of supporting Civil Rights, and who is Jewish (and them bandying about the āwhite supremacistā term).
Oddly enough, it isnāt that I donāt understandā¦Itās that I do. I may not be articulating things very well at times, but I really do understand the anger and frustration. I just also know from first hand experience that most people are not as understanding as Senator Sanders and that these disruptions, especially against someone who is an ally, are upsetting people.
I heard the same interviews as Chammy did on MSNBC, but I am still with you on this. While protests garner attention for an important message, I am not convinced that beginning by shutting down Bernie Sandersā events was the wisest way to make their point. It supports the ridiculous notion that Dems are the real racists and weakens the credibility of BLM. Why wouldnāt they begin their protests at a rally for one of the Republican candidates? After all, it is the Rs who gut voting rights, support over-militant police actions, donāt support a fair minimum wage, etc.
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I was worried that my response would lead you to think I donāt believe you understand the issue and I at first, felt the same way about the in-yer-face confrontations. I do believe it is early enough so that it wonāt be a factor later on. It is very early and most folks (unlike us junkies) arenāt even paying attention and if they are, they are paying more attention to Trump just because of all the 24/7 attention heās getting but even then I think you would be surprised how few people pay attention. The liberal white supremacist term was over the top for sure - but it has made Sanders take attention and now I hear that Hillary met with them in an overflow room at one of her conferences yesterday. This issue I believe,will be handled well by our candidates.
You are very articulate and I understood your frustration with the group. I still believe, at this point anyway, that this will right itself.
What irritates me the most is that one of these women is a fundamentalist christian who admires Palin. However, this woman, Alizia Garza who is the founder, seems to be a reasonable woman but determined that their voices be heard,
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But it did work Marby. He has listened and it appears HRC gave them an audience in an overflow room after her venue yesterday. HRC understands that this has to be addressed and she is not ignoring it.
This is an interesting take. Doināt know if you saw this
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Thank you. I try very hard to be articulate, but Iāve also had people misunderstand what Iām saying. I get words wrong sometimes, and misunderstand concepts. Itās all part of this nexus of learning disabilities I have.
And yes, not a lot of people are paying attention to this unless youāre like us and pay attention to politics very closely.
I still think that, if they had just said to Sanders quietly ācould you ramp up the Civil Rights talk a bit moreā, he would have listened without the need to protest. Iāve been to a couple of his town halls over the years. Heās a very reasonable person.
I hadnāt read it, but it is a very valid point. I am hopeful that Sanders will make up the difference in voters as his message gets heard, but it will take some time before that happens. I know he has a lot to do in order to win or even be a long term candidate. I feel he has that potential, though.