Paul Tibbets would have known what to do with Texas.
Anything to keep them from becoming voters, eh Teatrolls?
Iâm telling you right now: TX is far more purple than you think.
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FIFY
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Sounds more like folks from the Northeast Kingdom than Vermonters in general.
If a tourist just passing through has a baby, that child is entitled to a birth certificate, which is simply a document that records that the birth occurred. The same is true if they die-a death certificate is issued. I donât see even the remotest grounds to not issue a birth certificate.
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Me and the New Horizons probe arenât as far apart as those things.
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Texas, 2012 Prez vote, Obama-3,308,124â41.38%
Romney-4,569,843â57.17%
2008 Prez vote, Obama-3,528,633---43.68%
McCain-4,479,328--55.45%
114th Congress-U.S. House-Texas delegation-25 Republicans, 11 Democrats
Doesn't look too damned purple to me.
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Understood. But there is, in lots of places in the US, a real undercurrent concern about who gets to âbelongâ and who doesnât, and it has nothing to do with legal truths. Just food for thought, not an argument to deny birth certificates.
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They canât deny citizenship, but they can make it much more difficult to prove that you are a citizen (what do you have to prove it?) and so deny the rights and benefits of citizenship.
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Texas is too busy suing the President over his deferred deportation policy, claiming the cost of a driverâs license as the âinjuryâ which gives it standing to sue. So the real people who really have been injured deliberately will just have to take a back seat.
Makes me wonder how much those Hummer chasers are spending, trying to surveil the Army trainees.
The battle for human rights and dignity never stops.
If I were representing the plaintiffs in this action, Iâd point out to the court that if a baby is abandoned and found by the side of the road, a birth certificate is issued. Why, then, must a parent show anything about immigration status to get one for her/his child?
Iâd also wonder whether blond, blue-eyed parents are required to show proof of citizenship.
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Although 57-41 is a landslide for election purposes, that still means of every 10 people you meet, typically 4 wonât be crazy assh*les.
(And the congressional thing is, of course, the result of gerrymandering so extreme itâs since been ruled unlawful)
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I would say this is unbelievable, but, sadly, itâs completely believable. I wonder what it would be like to stop being afraid of things we donât understand and be excited about the possibilites instead.
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Would you like to look at the census numbers instead of relying on the subset of the population that bothered to vote? I was talking about the entire TX population of potential voters, not just who did vote. Clearly, you canât rely on the latter when the govât of TX is doing everything it can to prevent people from doing so who are likely to vote against the Red RegimeâŚsuch as trying to prevent natural born hispanic citizens from even having a brith certificate to prove their citizenship. If I remember correctly, TX grew by something like 4.5M people between the 2000 and 2010 census AND something crazy like 90% of that growth was attributable to growth in the minority population, 2/3 of which was attributable to the hispanic populationâs growth. 4.5M people represented a growth of approximately 22.5% in that time period. Thatâs HUGE. Texas is THE example to look at for the demographic shifts that have been fueling the white fright freakout that began on November 4, 2008. They KNOW TX is purple and continuing to shift, and theyâre dong everything they can possibly think of to try to suppress, delay and prevent that trend from continuing.
Edit: http://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/18/minorities-drove-texas-growth-census-figures-show/
Me too and yes.
This is so messed up. Citizenship by birth is a constitutional right. Itâs not up to a state, or anyone for that matter, to decide when it applies.
There is simply no way to justify what the Texas government is doing.
And holy crap are Conservatives up in arms in joy and ecstasy about âstopping the anchor baby schemeâ. What the fuck. The pure racism and bigotry on the boards in articles about this from folks who support this VERY illegal action is seriously killing my hope for humanity. God those folks are pure racism and hatred incarnate. What the freaking hell did Mexicans do to them to make them hate them so much?!? Is this the result of Trump opening up the floodgates of racism, bigotry, ignorance, and hatred with his war on illegals (Mexicans in particular)? What the hell did Trump unleash???
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Whatever the reality is of the populaceâs demographic content the nation at large has to co-exist with the power and influence Texas wields in D.C. Texas can jump up and down and yell âLook at me, Iâm purple!â all they want in an effort to persuade people theyâre not crazy. However, when party invitations go out and the only people showing up are red to the core protesting otherwise does no good. 25 to 11 in the U.S. House is the only color that matters
Not content with discriminating against people of color, females, LGBT folks, and school children, Greg Abbott has extended his reach to Infant Americans. Sheeesh.
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And 4 out of 10 doesnât stop the ENTIRE electoral college vote from Texas from being cast for a GOP Prez nominee. Prez elections arenât horseshoe throwing contests. Close doesnât count. I donât see the citizenry flipping to 50+% Dem anytime soon when voting for President. So color Texas lost in the good fight for some time on that front.
Thatâs a really weird and unexpected angle you just approached from. I have no idea what TXâs level of crazy has to do with anything, or what people wanting to claim that TX is not crazy has to do with anything I said. Nor am I sure why you associated what I said with people using TXâs purple-ness as some sort of counter to claims that TX is crazy.
So, let me be clear: TX is crazy. Itâs got the fucking cray cray dripping from its orifices and pores. Nothing I said was intended to have anything to do with that fact, nor did it.
As for the breakdown in representatives, yeah, you just used more numbers influenced by the Great White Freakoutâs institutionalization of racism and voter suppression in the state. Their redistricting was deliberately drawn to dilute minority and Hispanic votes. Just because it works doesnât mean the populationâs purple-ness is in question. The fact is this: all you have to do is look at the behavior of the GOP/Teatrolls in TX over the past 7 years, particularly after the release of the census, to understand that EVEN THE GOP/TEATROLLS recognize, acknowledge, admit and FEAR that TX is purple.
Iâll say it again, TX is purpleâŚand by that, I mean its overall population.
I think youâre stretching and playing a bit of a semantic game. When people talk about whether a state is red or blue or purple, theyâre generally talking about the population itself, not what kind of finegled electoral results the party in power has been able to arrange for themselves. I fully recognize that TX is, to some extent, a practical lost cause for some time to come, but it doesnât mean that time isnât passingâŚrapidly.