Discussion: Texas Bill Is 'Legislative Middle Finger' After Gay Marriage Day In Court

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Well so much for small government 2 laws to do the exact same thing. The TX bureaucrats will need a 3rd set of bureaucrats to referee the jurisdictional fight between them.

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ya knowā€¦ if marriage is a state sanctioned contract that the state has defined with privileges, such as inheritance of estate or hospital visitation or medical decisions when the spouse is incapacitated etc, then it would seem that the granting of the franchise to perform the state sanctioned ceremony is granted in the same way a business license is granted to a baker or photographer or floristā€¦

the idiots that perform the recognition ceremony donā€™t get a choice about whether to perform it anymore than the bake or photog or floristā€¦ they arenā€™t asking for your opinion or for you to approve or disapproveā€¦ just say the words making the transaction legalā€¦

if you canā€™t do that then give up your franchiseā€¦

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So the fiscal pseudo-conservatives just wasted money that could have gone to schools.

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ā€œIn February, a lesbian couple in Austin became the first same-sex couple towed in Texas since voters passed a constitutional ban on gay marriage in 2005.ā€

Damn gays think parking laws are for everyone elseā€¦

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The American Taliban has a friend in the Texas Legislature.
Compare the views on the American Taliban with the views of the Afghani Taliban. You wonā€™t find any space between them except for the Labeling.

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Even advocates for same-sex couples say the bill, aimed at allowing clergy members to refuse officiating marriages that violate their beliefs, largely duplicates protections that already exist.

Forget whether protections exist. Why would you even need them? Has someone tried to force a cleric to marry them? What did they use? A gun?

The Republican party: Protecting you from non-existent threats since 1980.

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I hear the Texas-invading American forces are equipped with giant black dildos but very little lubricantā€¦

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About that border fence ā€¦ I"m all for it ā€¦ only it needs to be on the West, North and East borders of Texas.

See, this is where the lazy media accepting rightwing labeling has screwed up the discussion. You say ā€œgay marriageā€ and many people thing of two outre faggots wearing tuxedo jackets and tutus dancing down the aisle of the Main Street Babdist Church holding a pink shotgun to the organistā€™s head.

Say ā€œcivil unionā€ and it becomes a transaction that any duly licensed individual - judge, minister, JP - can do, and it gives a loving couple the chance to support one another in every way.

If weā€™d gotten hold of the terminology way back when, this fight wouldnā€™t have been so protracted.

The terminology is simple. Itā€™s called marriage.

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Clergy is already exempt. They donā€™t have to marry anyone they donā€™t want to, and that goes for straight couples too, or couples of different faiths, etc. This bill is just stupid, but then we are talking about Texas.

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That doesnā€™t fly.

The clergy conduct religious ceremonies when they marry a couple. As a convenience, the state allows the clergy to also serve as the officiant for the state, taking the place of the Justice of the Peace or whatever government office serves that role in a given state.

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of course it doesā€¦ if someone wants a religious benediction then by all means go for it but the ā€˜convenienceā€™ of the state recognizing the legal sanction shouldnā€™t be mitigated by bigoted objectionā€¦

the state canā€™t make it harder to get married anymore than they should be allowed to make it harder to voteā€¦

I heard married lesbian couples are leading the Jade Helm 15 exercises. And theyā€™re being inseminated by homosexual Chinese soldiers, in this country working under cover as baristas at Starbucks stores in Austin!!

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My wife is Jewish; Iā€™m not. We tried to find a rabbi who would marry us but none would. We never thought of suing or otherwise forcing one to perform the ceremony.

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