Discussion: Tenn. GOPer On Renaming Park Named After KKK Leader: 'What Separates Us From ISIS?'

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The American Left demands…

In SPITE of what occurred in Charleston, these republican morons continue to create resentment and anger at people who don’t agree with them. Kristal did it yesterday and now Walsh. They’re further enflaming the right wing nuts, trying to keep their voting bloc in the fold.

Irresponsible and dangerous.

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I don’t know whether there’s any good place to grow cotton in Iraq, but I do believe that ISIS has nowhere near the exports that the confederate states had.

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No body is trying to destroy your flags, monuments, fake history books, etc. All you need to do, I suggest, is to put that “stuff” in one, some of the many caves you have in Tenn. They’ll all be safe (and you too) there.

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…or beer…errrr…or ale…

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If U.S. Removes Confederate Symbols, 'What Separates Us From ISIS?

If you were to judge the U.S. by the words and actions of Republicans, then only a hairs-breadth separates us from savages. It’s people like Tennessee Republicans that are holding back social evolution in the U.S., and damaging our reputation throughout the world.

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See now gop/bag you have that backwards. It is not the people making you racists (FINALLY) take down your symbols of hate. It is you and your brethren…

Using hate banners along with your religious zealotry to control the rest of the population, is exactly like isis.

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Yeah, Republican legislatures just starve children slowly, rather than beheading adults.

So, for the fun of going straight to the Nazis, was it wrong to pull down all those Nazi statues?

He’s right! The next thing you know our Royal Colonies are going to start taking orders from Prussia!

“Remove” and Re-Locate" mean two different things. In Grutas parkas, Lithuania, near the Belarus border, there is a fine collection of relocated statues of Lenin, Stalin, Marx, Engels, and other luminaries of the former “worker’s paradise” known as the Soviet Union. Funny thing is, only foreign tourists go to look at them. A similar setting for Heroes of the Confederacy would be fitting.

http://www.traveladventures.org/continents/europe/grutas-parkas.html

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I quite like this idea–one in each southern state that insists on a worship site for traitors.

If all of the symbols of hatred and racism are gathered into just a few museums as opposed to being spread out across the nation as they are now, then the reality of what southern pride really is would be fully on display. No vague references or tales of glorious battles, just the true meaning and the exact people that fought for the right to keep slaves.
Southerners want their racism and denial too. Museums that quantify and describe racial hatred and its very beginnings will put an end to the southern pride veil of the civil war.
If there were a ‘southern pride’ museum, would they attempt to exclude slavery for instance. They can’t and that is the point, it’s all about slavery.

. “Because that’s what they do, they go around and tear down history in those nations that they’ve conquered. If that’s what America is about now, then it concerns me.”

The Confederacy is not a treasure of the antiquities; nothing is to be gained from exalting racism and treason.

“What separates us from ISIS?”

Our ability to move beyond dead-end nihilism, hatred, and repression, as represented by the Confederacy.

I can probably take it as already entered into evidence that he’s pro torture so my response would be “Less and less different by the day.”

Neither for nor against

Neither here nor there

Not enough information

I mis-spoke

I miss-poke

Racists elected me.

This issue has everything to do with art—that’s why I believe it’s good to move the statuary from statehouses to museums, whether historical or art or a mixture of both. Keeping them in a government or legislative setting implies a different kind of acceptance than having them in a museum setting does.

The monuments are part of our history—for good or ill—and shouldn’t be destroyed because some people dislike the subject matter or what the subject represents.

I could just as easily referred to what the Taliban and ISIL have done with ancient monuments and museum displays that they have destroyed.

Regardless of the comparison, such art and/or monuments are protected First Amendment speech, and shouldn’t be trashed just because they represent unpopular or uncomfortable images or historical associations.
That would be highly un-American.

BTW—I’m a former college art history prof and practicing artist, so I do have a bit of knowledge here.

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The vast majority of the monuments and statuary devoted to Confederate soldiers or leaders was created between about 1870 and 1930.

Almost nothing was left over from the CSA itself.

And those monuments and statuary were created by artists and sculptors, in some cases pretty famous ones, and shouldn’t be vandalized or destroyed because you or some group dislikes what they represent.

Art censorship is always a bad idea.

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Please don’t paint Southerners with such a broad brush.

It’s no different than making generalized comments about racial minorities and applying the comments to the entire racial group.

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