Discussion: Supreme Court Strikes Down 2 NC Congressional Districts

Here’s the vote breakdown from page 6 of @dnl link

KAGAN, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which THOMAS,
GINSBURG, BREYER, and SOTOMAYOR, JJ., joined. THOMAS, J., filed a
concurring opinion. ALITO, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment
in part and dissenting in part, in which ROBERTS, C. J., and KENNEDY,
J., joined. GORSUCH, J., took no part in the consideration or decision
of the case.

I admit that I’m shocked that Thomas voted with the majority! Wonder why Gorsuch recused himself?

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Wasn’t on the court yet?

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Oh. That makes sense!

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He wasn’t on the Court when oral argument occurred, so he took no part in the decision.

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Good news! Cheating isn’t right. Most people learn that in kindergarten.

Thomas wrote a concurring opinion that was even stronger than the majority’s. But the partially dissenting opinion by Alito is depressing, not least because Kennedy joined it. He would have held that intentional political gerrymandering is OK - the only thing about District 12 that was not OK was the intent to pack minority voters into that district. Deliberately packing Democrats into that district was fine. A party challenging district boundaries drawn on the basis of race has to show, in essence, that the state could have drawn the map in an alternative manner that would pack Democrats, white and black, into the offending district. Alito’s opinion summarizes the testimony of the guy who drew the boundaries about how he went about taking Democrats from here and there and packing them into District 12. Chilling.

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@spencersmom @captaincommonsense @ghost @judygran
Love the discussion------ intelligent, noncombative, and informative.

Thanks.

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I’ll never live to see this day, but it is going to be so nice when Blacks and Hispanics and gays and various other minorities and oppressed segments of the populace outnumber Caucasians in overwhelming numbers. It’s going to take 50 or 100 years, but eventually State and Federal legislative bodies will have Caucasian minorities. Then the whole miserable lot can experience the frustrations of vying for attention and fair treatment like everyone they’ve been effing with for 250 years+.

“The result was to weaken African-American voting strength elsewhere in North Carolina.”

The PLAN was to weaken African-American voting strength elsewhere in North Carolina.

FIFY

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It has long been their dream to be able to shift the analysis away from race by claiming that race was merely a coincidental ancillary factor while political affiliation was the real focus. Alito and Roberts, in particular, are the danger when it comes to these decisions because they’re products of thew white grievance culture that grew up as the conservative movement espoused and nurtured the cultural resentment we’re now seeing come to a head with the alt-right white nationalist movement that turd-blossomed with Trumpymonkeybaby. Both Alito and Roberts will look for any way possible to destroy precedent regarding affirmative action and other “equalizers” they see as hampering the perpetuation and maintenance of white dominance and control over the country’s gov’t and culture, and they will glibly pretend racism is dead in this country in order to do so. Gorsuch is of an age with them and I suspect will line up along with them to do anything he can to help undo anything he can peg as part of the great white genocide.

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This decision wasn’t even close.
8-0 on the result.
Yes, they each had their differences on how to get there but what matters is 8-0.

Maybe. 2020 is a pretty tall order since the Dems have spent 50+ years perfecting their failure to gain control over state legislatures and governors mansions. I suspect what you’ll see instead is the GOP attempting to outdo themselves on their previous gerrymandering and hoping it wins them a couple more elections before anyone can do anything about it.

Serves the NC GOP legislators right!

Just the medicine they need!!!

Gorsuch took no part in the decision because he wasn’t on the Court yet at the time of briefing and arguments.

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What I think is really chickenshit about NC is the citizens elected a Democratic governor so the gerrymandered Republican legislature stripped the Governor of all power. I wouldn’t live in NC on a bet.

Not that amazing. With Scalia gone, poor Clarence has no idea which way to turn. Apparently, Alito hasn’t reprogrammed him yet.

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WHOA
I have the urge to peek outside my window to see if pigs are flying :neutral_face:

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Being white i find your statement offensive .What about all the people in the other minorities that are Trump supporters,do you “think” they would be happy with your scenario

Justice Thomas was the fifth vote in the liberal wing majority.

Watch out for flying pigs today.

Yeah, I saw those posts almost immediately after mine.

Maybe someone should ask his opinion just for funsies.