Just one more confirmation who’s side this court is on.
OK, I’ll bite. Yes, they will, and so what? What we need to do is tie eVerify to the voting card to the driver’s license. That way, we can have one ID card, and save a boat-load of money, and deport all the illegals too. It’s a win-win-win.
You are either naive or ignorant if you truly believe this is not an attack on minorities. When there is basically zero voter fraud, there is no other reason for it but an attempt to hinder certain people from voting.
Other than that, I agree with your post as far as what needs to be done.
Nader voters are snippy because they feel guilty and don’t want others to finger them.
Yes, let’s devote a considerable chunk of the discretionary federal budget to deporting productive people. That’s just sensible.
What’s the “free ID”?
In WI, there is a Free ID option. I read this is a DK comment.
The G.A.B. advises anyone who does not have a state ID card to take advantage of the opportunity to get one for free. The Wisconsin Division of Motor Vehicles has a process to allow people to obtain a free State ID card for voting purposes, even if the person does not have a birth certificate.
So, honestly, I have no patience for any more whining about this.
Either Democrats support the laws as they are on the books, or we become a RICO-level organization which condones, supports, and assists criminals. That is not the Democratic Party. That is a criminal mafia approach.
Personally, I don’t really have a big issue with it so long as it’s implemented evenly, fairly (perhaps grandfathered in in a few cases) way. Additionally, it must be implemented by a blitz of outreach, say five years’ worth. The state must make every effort to reach those already registered, verify their documents, etc., and work diligently and expeditiously to assist those who don’t have the proper documents (a passport in some states? – get real – that is a stupid thing to require). There are many Americans who do not have their birth certificates. The state must make every effort to help those persons obtain it – at no cost (remember, it should not cost a person to vote as poll taxes of any kind are illegal).
I do not believe there is any problem with voter fraud. Truthfully, the ones I’ve heard about involve Republicans. Ann Coulter comes to mind–and she did it knowingly.
My above comment was regarding the few people I’ve met or known who fully believe in enforcing these new Voter Fraud laws but can’t stand the idea of a national ID or list (like gun registry) of any kind. My comment was that I pointed out to them that these new voter fraud/ID laws are just that – lists AND they fingerprint you. Mostly quiet stares from them.
Again, if it’s applied evenly, properly and full outreach and assistance is there – then I’m okay with it. You need an ID to fly, drive, rent a car, etc. That said – again, not everyone flies, drives, rents a car, etc., so that is where the great outreach comes in. My true goal would be to increase voter participation – never to decrease it.
Good luck with that. Since the whole point of Voter ID is suppressing the votes of “those” people, I kind of doubt that states that get ID laws passed will jump at the chance to endorse groups working to undo the effects of the laws.
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Totally agree. I was responding to him in the abstract – but I’m well aware of why these laws are being put into place. My original post just states that now that it appears this is the law(s) of the land, the best we can do is to work within their framework and literally work diligently and overtime to get each and every person who is eligible the proper documentation and then registered to vote. Severe Voter Outreach. I’ve already started chatting up some of the people in my building who I know do not vote but I don’t know why. If it is because of a lack of proper documents, I’m attempting to see if they are receptive to going to City Hall with me to discover exactly what needs to happen for them to get what it needs. If it means a few bucks and I can spare it at the time, I will do it.
That’s the Republicon talking point, yes, but all levels of law enforcement have discretionary power, from the local cop on the beat to the top of the Department of Justice. Discretion is used all the time. Clearly we could catch every speeder with the technology we have available but it would be expensive, annoy everyone, and not improve safety one iota. This is analogous.
He’s good. I like to point out that he started as a cartoonist for the Minnesota Daily, the University of Minnesota’s paper.
Again, NCSteve, you nailed it. Sometimes you just have to shout out of sheer frustration at the mendacity.