Absolutely correct. You live in fear whether you want to or not.
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Itâs good to be white for sure. If he were black, heâd never see the light of day again
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Serious question : Who the fuck gives a shit if someone was a âhigh school swimmerâ? I get football, basketball, but if you would have put a gun to my head when I was in high school I could not have told you if we even had a swim team. But when some frat bro pussy is up on charges shit no one cares about except their parents is all of a sudden relevant and impressive. If I was her boyfriend or any relation I would make this motherfucker eat a brick, then see how well he can swim.
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As a victim of a violent crime, I can attest to that
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And while looking into Perskyâs records I ran across this. Donât know how it is related to the guy himself, perhaps just a fan site or by someone close to him/his family. I donât know. But regardless it exhibits exactly the same thinking as his defense in the trial and tells us a lot about what sort of culture he is surrounded with. It is sickening.
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Yeah, try that shit with Trumpâs daughter and see what happens. Youâll be swimming alright. But not at the Olympics.
Yeah.
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It looks like pure troll to me.
The facebook posts tell us nothing if we donât know who is behind them, but who needs the facebook account when his defense and statement tell us more than enough?
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No, not true.
Edit: See next comment.
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A powerful statement from a very brave woman who is well on her way to the kind of recovery which will serve to prove to her that she is no longer a victim because she has not only survived a horrendous experience but can move beyond it to become someone much more powerful and effective than she could have been had she not had this profoundly regrettable encounter with a young man who was so absorbed with his own wishes that he would use her vulnerability in a futile attempt to meet his own desire to feel powerful, significant, and valuable.
His future is in considerably more doubt, but, if he is lucky, he will have an opportunity to benefit from some guidance to bring about his own recovery and growth process much as she has outlined as her wish for him.
In order to accomplish that he will first have to accept full responsibility for his actions and their impact on all affected. In order to do that he will have to first understand what happened, including how it affected others as well as himself and his target, why it happened, including what he believed he was trying to accomplish, and why he chose to try to achieve his goals by assaulting her (which, of course means that he will have to come to terms with the fact that this was an assault, rather than the 'misunderstanding," or whatever other self-serving and mitigating characterization that he and his so-called supporters have chosen to describe what happened).
He will then have to come to terms with the fact that his desire to meet his own goals of growth and achievement will not be well served by continuing on his present path, but will necessitate finding more socially acceptable and thus more fulfilling patterns of behavior.
He will also need to use the information he acquires in this process to establish in his own mind, as well as in the minds of those who choose to associate with him in the future, that he no longer poses a threat to others.
Finally, if he wants to find any kind of redemption, he will try to atone for his actions by finding ways in which he can promote healing not only among those he has hurt, but in others in the community who are hurting.
This is not an easy journey for him to make, but it is doable, and essential for his recovery and rehabilitation. Fortunately there are programs he can access which will facilitate the recovery process for him, but he is unlikely to progress without some highly trained, skilled, help.
I am hopeful that in his state, as in this one, he will be mandated to treatment as part of the probation/parole process, and that he will find a competent program to help him.
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What about the âsevere impactâ on her life.
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Obviously that was not under consideration.
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No, itâs absolutely true that rapists are irredeemable. And here, like always, there was no remorse shown. Your post is wishful thinking about a hypothetical rapist with a conscience. But those donât exist. They are self-entitled animals who will continue to do the same crime unless physically stopped. Shooting them pretty much accomplishes that.
I donât put robbers , thieves, embezzlers, con men, assaults or even murderers in that category,but rapists, yeah. Shoot a few and perhaps fear will stop some others. Lord knows innate human decency doesnât.
This is very powerful, moving. Thank you to the lady who wrote this â and thank you to TPM for printing it in its entirety. The more light we shine on this subject, the better for all of us.
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Your sincere concern and hope for his future healing, growth and recovery from this âregrettable encounterâ are noted.
If heâd been a poor black kid represented by a public defender, heâd be on his way to a seven year stretch in an overcrowded maximum security prison full of other violent offenders and everyone but his mother would call it justice.
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I started reading the middle part of her statement, and I got teary-eyed.
Kept reading.
This needs to be sent to every guy out there who doesnât have an effing clue.
And to his parents who worship the ground he stands on and did a piss poor job of teaching him to respect women.
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Same here. I couldnât read on without a lump in the throat â once women are raped, too often they are raped long and repeatedly in order to fight for their dignity lost when first raped. And in this case after that fight the rapist just got six months (could get out earlier than that, I read), because âsevere impactâ (and the rapist still doesnât have a clue). What about the severe impact on her, exactly. Words cannot express my anger â and my respect for her, her strength and courage to write that statement.
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While I believe that all those who do this type of thing to anyone are scum, I also believe there may be a chance to reach a few of them on some level, especially (but not solely) the younger ones. The unfortunate reality is that of the small number of rapists who are successfully prosecuted, the large majority of even them will serve unreasonable and mind-bogglingly short sentences. I think what @david_e_brown is noting is the reality of the situation leads us to at least try and reach as many of the perpetrators so we as a societyâoutside of locking them all away for life or shooting dead every single one of them, neither of which is happeningâcan attempt to stop them from ever doing it again, and yeah, maybe even realize and accept what they did, talk to young boys in an effort to instill respect and what it means to be a real man ⌠maybe even discover a way for law enforcement, psych workers, parole folks, etc., to have some success at this, not just a very rare one or two. I donât believe david_e_brown is downplaying what is and should be our primary concern: the survivor of the sexual assault. And, damn, is this particular woman strong!
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The victimâs response was spot on:
The probation officer weighed the fact that he has surrendered a hard earned swimming scholarship. If I had been sexually assaulted by an un-athletic guy from a community college, what would his sentence be? If a first time offender from an underprivileged background was accused of three felonies and displayed no accountability for his actions other than drinking, what would his sentence be? How fast he swims does not lessen the impact of what happened to me.
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⌠a longer sentence would have a âsevere impactâ on Turner.
Isnât that what weâre going for, here?
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