“HistORY IS SuppoSED to MAKe us PROUd OF Our HIStorY”
Whut? You’re an idiot. Go read Philbrick’s book Mayflower as suggested, then his book, The Last Stand and try and learn something.
Gawd, are you stew-pud!
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If you’d like to delve further into the truth about the recent history of this continent, read this book:
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After watching WGN America’s Manhattan, a series somewhat based on the nuclear bomb project in the 1940s, I went back and reread some of my library concerning it: contemporary biographies on Oppenheimer, Army officers Groves and Marshall as well as on the project itself. I wanted to see just how skewed the history was in the dramatic presentation.
One thing was not skewed: several of the developers, military and civilian, by D-Day were very concerned that the European portion of the war would be over before they could get a chance to use their “gadget.” Their fears were well founded, as Germany capitulated on May 8 and the first test blast was July 16.
Americans were told the two atomic bombs had to be dropped in order for the Japanese to surrender. Now I wonder if we didn’t drag our feet in invading Japan so that we could use the bomb. Since nearly all Americans in decision making positions in the 1940s were of European extraction, I’ll bet they would have had clay feet in dropping atomic devices on their ancestor’s continent. But why not on the Japanese?
My thinking now is that America is no different than ancient Rome: We are the bully on the planet and Pax Americana is our foreign policy with perhaps the UK and Israel getting a free pass on our world domination.
Sorry, but the “great feast” was not “comprised of… turkey, cornbread, pumpkin, cranberries.” The great feast comprised turkey, cornbread, pumpkin, and cranberries. Hopefully, the meal was better than Tim Weed’s English.
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The 2nd best scene in Addams Family Values was the Wednesday-led revolt of the Native Americans against the Pilgrims.
(best scene was her smiling after coming out of the cabin where Disney films were played - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buZZyUBwymA)
(eye roll)
I remember dressing in a brown paper bag costume that was supposed to represent the Natives. That may have been last year, but it felt like 2nd grade.
In other news…
President Obama today observed the Thanksgiving tradition of pardoning the White House turkey.
Speaking on Fox, House Speaker Boner and Senate Majority Leader Shelly McTurtle immediately accused the President of being “soft on poultry.” Boner demanded that Obama step down for what he called “a compromise that could allow bird terrorism to permeate our shores.”
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“Science”?
Breaking: Turkey resigns, blames WH micromanaging. WH sez turkey not up to job…
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To believe that, you have to ignore the irritating fact that Japan was fighting us tooth and nail the closer we got to the home islands. Okinawa was brutal. And it introduced to us just to what extremes the Japanese were willing to go, using civilians as bombs, kamikaze attacks, etc. So there was no dragging of feet.
Truman did, however, wish to make a statement to the Soviets, which is why he dropped two. It was a bluff (as two is all we had), that the Soviets would think if we were willing to drop two so quickly, we must have a lot more on the way.
And it seems a rather bizarre leap to go from discussing America’s role in WWII to us being the bully on the planet? Last time I checked, we were trying to stay out of WWII, and were the ones supplying and fighting for liberating everyone, not bullying them, during that war. I doubt the Danes, Norwegians, Dutch, Belgians, etc. saw us as the bullies. (I am leaving the French off that list on purpose…the Vichy reception we received in North Africa was far from friendly).
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Maybe he saw the video of Palin pardoning the turkey then doing an interview while they thrust it into a meat grinder behind her?
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I’m not sure it is helpful to the discussion to be using facts. Who ever won an argument with facts?
Its satire, son.
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I was wondering about that too. There isn’t anything in here that says that the native population didn’t share food with the pilgrims and taught them how to survive. The Thanksgiving story, as far as I have ever seen, actually happened. In fact, placed within the context of the before and after I think it makes it even more something to celebrate. Working together in a time when no one else was.
What happened before and after the first Thanksgiving is inexcusable, and the sins of those generations can never be forgiven. But that doesn’t actually say anything about Thanksgiving itself.
This attempted take down of Thanksgiving would be the equivalent of calling the WWI Christmas truce a myth because England and Germany were at war both before and after.
At the end of the day, I celebrate Thanksgiving as a day to be thankful for what I have. The idea of a bunch of religious fundamentalists doesn’t really enter my mind. Just like how I celebrate Christmas while thinking Jesus was a fraud.
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As I understand it Columbus landed in Venezuela in August 1498, and Vespucci didn’t make it to S.America until 1499. Am I missing something?
Also, Columbus was a horrible human being and we need to eliminate Columbus day as a Federal holiday. Just so no one thinks I am a Columbus fan boy or anything.
Vespucci identified the Americas as a new landmass, which is still the conventional measure for “discovering” something. Of course, Columbus was a well-known Italian, making him a representative for a people often harassed and attacked around the time the holiday was created.
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I don’t think Jesus rose from the dead etc. myself but still celebrate Christmas.
Thanksgiving need not be a day about Pilgrims. “Thanksgiving” has various possible meanings. It even was a time of fasting and repentance. Seems fitting given this article.
American Exceptionalism covers all sins. Nobody wants to pee in the soup of our heroic myths.
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