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Excellent. One has to wonder if Obama is setting up Mr. āLeast Untruthfulā Clapper as the fall guy.
āThatās just how we roll. We roll slow and deliberately, almost like we have no idea where weāre rolling to. Then someone pushes us. Suddenly, weāre rolling straight downhill into oncoming traffic,ā Obama responded.
Yup - and Obama is continuing to embroil the US in a conflict that will grow ever wider, with no end in sight.
what President Obama is doing is embracing the very lies that made the Cheney-Bush Iraq War possible. And in the process, heās creating yet another generation of people in the Islamic world who are going to grow up in a society where they believe that their religion is being targeted, where they believe that the United States is a gratuitous enemy. And so, this is sort of an epic formula for blowback
EDIT : Link fixed which did not work the first time. It appears you must create the link before using the blockquote tag.
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Wasnāt aware the show was still on.
I see it has not become any funnier in the ensuing years.
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āJane, you ignorant slut!ā and āNevermindā were the high points of their years on air.
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What are you quoting there?
Edit: Never mind, I found it. Jeremy Scahill from Fridayās broadcast of Democracy Now!
Heās got some good points, but Iām not sure I fully embrace his understanding of the so-called "Islamic world, " for if it were simply us vs. them, ISIS would probably not exist as is. No question that there is longstanding distrust of the US in the middle east, but itās a pipe dream to pretend that if Obama sat on his hands, the opinion of the US would be magically reversed. That ship has sailed long ago, and itās disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Not that thatās an excuse to continue destructive policies either. Bidenās recent comments that got him into trouble reveal a deeper understanding of the situation, which is that this is a proxy Syrian civil war. If you think we shouldnāt be involved, Iād say thatās a perfectly valid opinion. But itās not āthe Christian westā vs āthe Islamic Middle Eastā by any stretch. Thereās an underlying agenda in that characterization, which is to say āObama is the same as Bush,ā but, please.
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When quoting an Op-Ed from Jeremy Scahill, you should really give attribution. Otherwise, it is the theft known as plagiarism.
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Oh itās another one of those midterm election seasons where the liberals cannibalize themselves and perform the ritual circular firing squad. Yay, those are always fun.
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Thanks. You IDāed it just as I was composing my edit.
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And even then, those bits donāt really age that well, IMHO. Comedy, and political commentary, has moved on. Colbert can make me just about wet myself; this bit is just makes me feel embarrassed for the actors.
Edit: Also, I learn things when I watch Colbert, Stewart, and especially, Oliver. SNL just traffics in snarky chaff, if this bit is representative.
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2010 all over again.
Then people wake up a couple of weeks after election to find the RWNJās are still not laser focused on jobs and are more interested in political theater, games, and doing nothing else.
And then demand Obama (and only Obama) to fix it.
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Um, noā¦the link I used didnāt āstickā for some reason.
See the little [1] ?
Your point, āā¦ if it were simply us vs. them [āIslamic Worldā], ISIS would probably not exist as is,ā is speculative, sure, but a significant observation worth repeating and exploring. After all, if Saudi, in all their Wahhabi wonderfulness as guardians of the holy sites, and ALL the other Middle East leaders of countries so tied to their religious establishment as to not be too far from theocracies, are only worth overthrow and death, then it can be safely said that ISIS not representative of Islam in any existing form, and vice versa.
I guess my comment on comedians/clowns rubbed TPM the wrong way. It completely disappeared.
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Jeremy Scahill used to be an okay journalist but once Obama didnāt give him his candy, he turned on him like all the fire baggers
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āObamaā¦continuing to embroilā¦ā
Not really. Heās killed a bunch of genocidal thugs. I think thatās a good thing. Heās doing his best to NOT āembroilā the US, and, instead, to engage Middle Eastern countries in cleaning up the mess they (and George Bush) created. Now, could he be more vocal about that - sure, but I donāt see him running blindly into Vietnam redux. (BTW, donāt you find it scandalous that when the Saudiās starting pressuring McCain and Lindsey Graham, they made warmongering āUS boots on the groundā noises?)
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Does anybody really give a scrap about SNL?
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The Secret Service bit was not only fully deserved but also quite funny.
Well, it was block-quotedā¦
I used to want to tear out my hair thinking ādonāt you guys know what blowback is???ā but Iāve come to the realization that itās not a bug, its a feature for the NSA/ MIC.
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And for Wall Street. Itās the āISIS Bounceā they have been waiting for.
Defense stocks up big as ISIS crisis escalates
Shares of several big contractors are trading at all-time highs and have outperformed the market by a wide margin since the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria started making headlines on a nearly daily basis this summer.
Lockheed Martin (LMT), Raytheon (RTN), General Dynamics (GD) and Northrop Grumman (NOC) each hit records on Friday. And all four stocks are up about 10% since the beginning of August , compared to a 4% gain for the S&P 500.
10%ā¦since August? Thatās some serious profit for the Big Boys.
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