Most everyone was saying many of the same things about Hillary back in 2015. It really helped her, didn’t it?
It’s pointless to remind me she won the popular vote. Until that means an automatic win, it’s a moot point.
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Dem Presidential nominees have won the popular vote in 6 of the last 7 elections. They didn’t get to take power in 2 of those elections because of 1. Defections from far left voters in a few key states, 2. Intervening events/manipulation which went in the GOP’s favor (Comey, Russia, Jeb, SCOTUS). Having the better candidate and politician works for Dems. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were the best politicians of their era and they won 4 national elections. The issue is voters, especially those on the far left, making wise choices. The ultimate power in our Democracy rests with voters.
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I think one of these sisters is plenty to put on screen at a time–they’re both very “forward.” I would avoid the sister-act thing, and I hope I don’t hear or read about Maya Harris again before the 2020 election. It’s Kamala Harris, period.
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I think the election is about the Dems’ ability to connect (way better than they have been) and get out the vote vs. the Republicans’ massive dirty tricks machine. If Harris can mobilize voters WHILE minimizing the damage best, great. Otherwise it should be someone else–even a white male.
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You could say that about any candidate.
Balderdash!
Still can’t let go of your Bernie derangement syndrome can you?
Show me a respected pollster of Nate Silver’s caliber who agrees with you on that point, and I’ll quit trying to remind you about the reality of why Hillary lost.
I could post link after link about what respected pollsters said about the 2016 loss, it’s pointless. Like water off a duck’s back. You’ll believe what you want to believe and what you think will be popular with the majority here.
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Why are you so sure?
AA woman, two years in Senate, lot’s of CA AG baggage.
Do we want to win the WH, or look fashionable losing?
It’s not about the best choice, it’s about beating Trump.
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I respect your ability to state that point of view–it’s bound to get some attention here.
What you’ve said is something Dems obviously need to consider; it’s not an uncommon opinion.
And I don’t know how I feel about it, exactly…
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It’s still early, but I am surprised she’s not polling better than middle of the pack. I like her, too. She’s the whole package.
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When you say “defections,” do you mean to suggest that they owe your candidate their allegiance?
The ultimate power in our Democracy rests with voters.
Food for thought.
They didn’t get to take power in 2 of those elections because of
- Defections from far left voters in a few key states,
Why was that? And being an excellent commenter here, please tell me what constitutes ‘far left’?
- Intervening events/manipulation which went in the GOP’s favor (Comey, Russia, Jeb, SCOTUS).
You didn’t mention the democratic candidate.
I love this. I love Harris. She’s been at the top of my list for a long time and I think she’s got it all.
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The “AA” part and the lack of experience in the Senate did not stop Obama, so are you putting more of the blame on misogyny?
The “CA AG baggage” is not straightforward: for example, she said she was personally against the death penalty and yet, as AG, fought to preserve it.
I guess I’m still not seeing why you think nominating her would guarantee a Trump victory.
Nate Silver agrees. He has been saying so for almost 3 years now. There is no question that Comey impacted the polling. He has the data to show that. There is also no question that Berner voters were the ones who were most impacted and resulted in defections from HRC’s coalition. It’s also no secret that the Russians did everything they could to exacerbate those divisions and push messages of division. Robert Mueller, Congressional inquiries and independent reviews all say this. I think you just need to wake up and start embracing reality. You might hate HRC or really like Bernie, I don’t care. But I don’t really have any time for folks who don’t grasp factual reality.
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The “AA” part and the lack of experience in the Senate did not stop Obama,
She’s not Obama and yes, misogyny does indeed play a role. And not just from the male species.
she said she was personally against the death penalty and yet, as AG, fought to preserve it.
You’re saying something that is straight forward to me. And then there’s her relationship with Steve Mnuchin while CA AG - contribute to my campaign and I won’t prosecute - or even investigate - the thousands of foreclosure complaints my staff received, illegally evicting homeowners.
If your stuck on the word guarantee, what can I say. We all know, nothing today is guaranteed, except the rule of law, my social security check and Medicare health insurance. Well, today anyway.
Of course. No one group is completely innocent of bargaining in bad faith on these matters. I should have added something to the effect that, so long as whites run the show, what is gained in the way of justice and equality will be determined by the extent to which that progress inconveniences whites the least, to borrow Ta-Nehisi Coates’ formulation of the equation.
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Not my fav but I wouldn’t want to be cross-examined by her. That’s for damn sure.
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Nobody is going to be everybody’s favorite. That’s why we have a primary.
And I wouldn’t either, but she’s not the only one I feel that way about - I wouldn’t want Adam Schiff cross examining me either.
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No, you used it so I just wondered how sure you were – hence the questions.
About not investigating Mnuchin (and that sort of thing): I’m not sure how the Republicans can use it against her in the general … so is it a reason to deny her the nomination?
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I predict Harris will even do well in Iowa before it’s over. Readers at Talking Points Memo, as more involved political types, might forget that even generally astute citizens may not be acquainted with our up and comers. Back in November, I had dinner with a writer friend of mine. This guy is no dummy–he knows what’s up. We got going on politics for a minute, how to beat Trump, etc. So I was going on a bit about Kamala…and this guy got a blank expression on his face. He had not even heard of her.
Watch that CNN Town Hall she did back in January. She has that little bit of extra flair. Push comes to shove against Trump, my money is on the dynamo from California.
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