To the extent that both Rubio and Ryan are FOR SALE and can be bought, paid for, and beholden, Putin was smart.
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This can not be so. Just this morning the brilliant, great leader of Russia made a definitive statement on the issue of Russian involvement in the political processes of the United States and European counties.
âThere was no Russian involvement.â There that should end the whole messy thing.
Little Donnie Trump has said repeatedly that Putin is a better leader than the leaders of the rest of the world with he possible exception of Little Donnie himself.
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Probably didnât make much of an effort vis-a-vis Rubio quickly figuring out that he wasnât going anywhere and were probably surprised as he was that he was re-elected to the Senate.
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Theyâd already been trained and primed to be receptive to lies, xenophobia, and propaganda from decades of Father Coughlin, Birchers, Limbaugh, pre-Fox Murdoch media outlets, and Fox News.
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Why Ryan now? Who gets helped by this? Just wondering. I can speculate too. But do all the threads in this Russia story belong to just one ball of yarn?
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As I said, listen to clip of the Senate testimony of Clint Watts. The Russians where targeting individual voters and running fake news to their social media streams. They had a sophisticated plan to hack our election; it was much bigger and more effective than I imagined.
Anyway, Hillary Clinton spent $640 million on her campaign; Jill Stein spent 3.5 million. You think it was Jill Stein who beat Hillary Clinton?
And why are you so concerned about third-party candidates getting a few votes? Do you hate democracy?
WordâŚ
In SpadesâŚ
With a cherry on topâŚ
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You seriously believe that? Think about it. It is much easier to get a somebody to vote R or D that it is to get them to vote 3d party. The Russians arenât stupid.
No, they are not: the fringe candidates got enough votes to swing the elections. Purpose served.
Putin has dirtied the name of Russia for at least another two generations.
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Bingo! Since I have been following this angle very closely, mostly based on the work of Josh Marshall and Rachel Maddow, I have become convinced that Felix Sater is the key to the whole ugly business. And the real foundation for all of the hullabaloo and distraction is simply this: trump has been laundering dirty Russian Mob money for some time. The blackmail is based on this, and not on some perverted cavorting with Russian hookers. The grab-em-by-the-crotch tape didnât do any real harm to the Donaldâs campaign (although a number of women I know had bad memories re-activated by the news) so why should a peepee party in a Moscow hotel make any difference? But a federal crime with real hard time behind it, that is another thing altogether.
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This Russian trolling wouldnât work if your average Joe wasnât so fucking stupid
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Rubio: âWithin the last 24 hours, at 10:45 a.m. yesterday, a second attempt was made.â
And the vulnerability of Committee staff computers?
The White House has been hacked; the Pentagon has been hacked; the CIA has been hackedâŚ
Whatâs to keep the Kremlin or WikiLeaks (but I repeat myself) from grabbing Senate investigative files?
And making a âspecial deliveryâ to Flynn, Manafort, Page, Stone, Bannon, Trump, Nunes, or anyone else?
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I remember some press a while back about how the Trump team had used $200 million worth of targeted facebook ad buys to do exactly what Clint Watts is saying the Russians did. Did they both come up with the same brilliant plan independenty?
I think you could impeach Trump and go after the whole gang based on Clinton Wattsâ testimony alone. He was eye opening. From his testimony, we got a clear picture of the extent of Russian interference complete with a âJâaccuse!â of Trump for actively using Russian disinformation for his own benefit against his opponents. However, even âJâaccuseâ is too soft for what Watts did. Watts stated it as a matter of incontrovertible fact, and therefore the conspiracy can be inferred even without additional evidence of contacts. But when you then piece together the sheer number of contacts, and the timing of certain disinfo articles, the conspiracy is basically confirmed.
Next, when you start to follow the money, the conspiracy becomes even more high stakes. This is a big deal. If guys like Rubio and Ryan have any sense of ambition or brains at all, they will go after Trump to get him out of there.
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I think that Trump got more votes than Clinton in enough swing states to win the Electoral College.
And how do you explain all the Democratic candidate Senate losses? Those are Jill Steinâs fault, too, right?
And follow the murders, too.
ââFollow the trail of dead Russiansâ if you want to crack 2016 election interference: Senate intel witnessâ
While weâre putting on the tinfoil, letâs note that the distance between Putin and Rupert has not always been that large. âThe enemy of my enemyâ is a dangerous game to get sucked into.
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It would be amusing to say the least to trace each Russian hack to a Trump comment or Breitbart article trashing other candidates within the same day or even hour. Say Marco gets hacked but lo and behold at the debate Trump calls him âLittle Marcoâ. It just seems too convenient.
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So let me see if I have this right - you think the Russians did things during the election but the election was still fair and Hillary lost fair and square in the EC?
Those are two competing views of the same situation.
Either the election was fair and honest or it wasnât and clearly it wasnât. So clearly she didnât lose those votes because her campaign or her lack or warmth or Bernieâs awesomeness. It was obviously a lot of illegality and we still donât know the full extent.
So stop with the âshe lostâ shit and then getting in on the conversation about the election being thrown by Trump and the Russians.
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They didnât need to get a lot of people to vote 3rd party and this election featured two candidates. It was 2000 all over again with even more people duped and/or just plain stupid. And, as with the 9/11 terror attacks, the Russians didnât actually need to hack any voting machines and they probably intended all along to be discovered as the uncertainty it will generate from here forward is far more damaging than any actual âvote stealing.â This is the true Red Threat imagined by McCarthy, except that the damage is actual and, perhaps, much broader.
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