Discussion: See Inside The Oregon Compound With Militiaman's New Tech Man

Malheur has become quite the nut magnet.

http://www.officeplayground.com/Assets/ProductPreview/pi1500-1699/1578_magneticartnuts_1b.jpg

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Technology has become too easy to use.

Yeah, yeah, I’m old so get off my lawn and my PDP11.

Found: Jon Ritzheimer’s excuse for missing school

Please excuse Jonny’s absence on (fill in date). He had a tummy ache from eating too many dicks.

Thank you,
(rubber stamped) Mrs. Ritzheimer

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No shit, with quotes like this:

“ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS FOR ISIS TO NUKE ISRAELHELL!” Fry wrote in November.
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/01/isis-backer-joins-bundys-militants-then

No !!!00000100010100!!! needed. What a clusterfuck of malcontents we have in Burns, Oregon.

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The media has pretty much stopped covering these assholes, so why is this site obsessed with them?

Here is the FOX home page. Nothing on them as of this post. A few dozen stories on the home page, not one on these clowns.

Plus we have the Cruz birther nonsense on here. More sophomoric nonsense. Meanwhile even FOX has a much better Cruz story. Cruz failed to disclose almost a million in loans from Goldman Sachs on Federal Fundraising forms. If I recall, Cruz’s wife was (or is) with GS, in fact he got his health insurance from her.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/13/cruz-failed-to-disclose-goldman-loan-during-senate-run.html
THAT is a real story. Not if he is eligible to run. That’s kid stuff.

C’mon TPM, let’s start getting to some substance. Not Birther stuff, or giving a bunch of assholes free publicity when the MSM is giving them almost none. The important thing to to defuse them, and no media attention is a huge factor in doing that.

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So it looks like THE BIG MOUTH has 'em “coming and going”… (Grins).

“Currently, I am actually using one of the BLM computers here,” Fry says
on camera as he shows viewers the screen and keyboard. “No other damage
is being destroyed. No sabotaging anything.”
…
OK, what exactly does “No damage is being destroyed…” mean?

And as for no “sabotaging anything” what about that ranchers fence Bundy 'n friends destroyed?
And this kid’s using a computer that Bundy denied anyone was using…
Seems a lot of lying is going on at that refuge

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Why are you encouraging the Vanilla ISIS gang. If the press leaves them alone they will go home.

From your lips to God’s ears.

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Gummydicks —

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Oh? Why should I disbelieve him about the loan and believe him about his citizenship? According to him he didn’t even know he was a Canadian citizen.

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Ted's mother never set in motion any kind of procedure--or even showed any such interest--in forfeiting her U.S. citizenship

How do we know this is true? The only people we have saying this are the Cruzes.

There is enough out there to warrant investigation.

Eleanor Elisabeth Wilson as she was then married a foreign man here on a green card, moved to Canada to start a family and a business with him, had a child there and appears on the voting roles for Calgary. None of this is conclusive but it certainly is suggestive enough to warrant investigation.

When Cruz’s Senate office responded to Josh’s inquiry they were either badly informed as to the Canadian laws involved or lying. They claimed that the list was not of voters which is not the case – it appears to be collected by officials akin to our census workers charged with finding qualified voters and then reviewed by a higher level official. They claimed that she could not have taken out Canadian citizenship at the time of Ted’s birth because she had not been there long enough. But the state of the law was that she could take it out in one year if she was married to a Canadian. And she appears to have been there for at least a year before his birth. So it becomes critical to know when Cruz’s Father became a Canadian citizen. This is not known.

Even if she did become a Canadian citizen she would not lose her American citizenship unless there was evidence that she intended to renounce her American citizenship. However, taking Canadian citizenship at that time required you to take an oath renounce allegiance to any other country where you might have citizenship. And there is a court case where a woman lost her US citizenship because she swore that oath and was not believed as to the excuses she gave for doing so and had married a Canadian and lived there for 15 years. Eleanor lived there for at least 5 years and was married to a Canadian. Further, there is something that I had wondered about prior to this birther controversy. When Ted denied that he was a Canadian citizen he said that his Mother had said that she would have had to take an affirmative action for him to have Canadian citizenship which made no sense to me since he had a right to Canadian citizenship by birth. So shouldn’t it have been the case that he would have had to take an affirmative action. However, had she herself become a Canadian citizen and taken the affirmative step of telling the US that she renounced her US citizenship, then he would have had only the Canadian citizenship.

At one point I thought that choosing to call herself an American to pass citizenship onto Ted when he was born would indicate an intent to retain American citizenship but the short form birth certificate posted on Breitbart does not record the citizenship of the parents – it merely has them state their place of birth.

It may well be that as you state she never had any interest whatsoever in Canadian citizenship but given all the above I believe it should be looked into.,

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There’s got to be some sort of happy medium between dropping a daisy cutter and giving these pampered squatters free internet.

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Her US citizenship was never “renounced”. There is no documentation that says it was. His mother was a citizen when he was born. Done deal. Even if she had become a Canadian citizen, she then would be a dual citizen, like thousands of people. They are still US citizens.

You need to read the whole case. It says her initial reason for taking the oath (US hardship and that she was “forced” into it) was a crock of BS. She also let her passport expire, then 15 years later she decided she wanted to come back to the US as a citizen. It was determined due to her extended absence and lying that she lost her citizenship. Additionally, the Canadian Consulate General in Toronto confirmed that she was administered the oath on March 1, 1973. No such confirmation exists for Cruz’s mother. It’s all speculation. And it was long ago. In that case the decision was made at the time. It was current. The Cruz thing was decades ago.

EDIT: I would also add that “hypothetically”, if they were to now renounce her citizenship now, it’s not “retroactive”. She was still a citizen at that time. So even in that absurd hypothetical situation, he’s still eligible.

Yes, Ted is a dick for saying that, he knew he had citizenship just due to being born there, but he was politically embarrassed to admit it. Not relevant to his mother being a US citizen at the time.

The loan thing is current, and there is actual documentation that he did not fill out the forms properly. So it has nothing whatsoever to do with believing or disbelieving him. It’s already established fact. And he only changed the filing after the NY Times ran a story on it. That’s why it’s worth a look.

This analysis is only possible because Cruz’ father is a white Cuban. Had he been a black African, Cruz would be disqualified like Obama. Ask Orly Taiz or Donald Trump.

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Don’t hate the player, hate the game .

God damn just when I think these guys can’t get any dumber, they excede my highest expectations by light years.

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Indeed, that’s my point. It’s all just complete nonsense.

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Well, is that documented ? Or is your position that Cruz’s mother was a US citizen, if nothing else is documented? Why not require a positive proof she was a citizen, e.g. a passport or something ?

Well, this proves that they have no sense of embarrassment or even the ability to realize that they ought to be.
This Frye dude is a geek’s geek with not much more than gamer skills and some raw tech ability. I’m thinking that he didn’t do so well in his English classes or that he even knows the word syntax.

With zero sense of self awareness these anti-authority/conspiracy crack pots want their personal demands and wants met and taken care of without realizing how they are the very same thing that they hate and fear.

Societally speaking, militia posers and their brethren are a cult of idiocy.