Discussion for article #231547
It sure is sounding more and more that that is probably the case. So what does this say about the FBI and their ability to investigate cyber attacks?
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Sorry, I’ve come to question everything Politico reports.
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Awwwwww
The Un will be disappointed.
Multiple firms believe with great certainty that the FBI and all the other firms that believe with great certainty are wrong about the perpetrators.
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"upon hearing the news it could be a group of disgruntled employees working with pirates Arizona Senator John McCain said it was time to wage war on his personal arch nemesis - Blackbeard
Senator McCain went onto note that we must stand with the freedom fighters of the Caribbean in their time of need"
Seriously though - the FBI pinning the tail on North Korea on this was about as bad as their pin the tail on the anthrax scientist
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That the FBI is able to track cyber attacks about as well as North Korea can launch them?
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I feel so much more secure knowing that the FBI can’t accurately track global internet threats.
for me, it’s more, what does this say about American Intelligence in general. We got lied into a war with Iraq and Afghanistan, and there was a lot of aggressive posturing, some would say (myself included) acts of war, with the recent N Korea thing. Politically based conclusions, rather than fact based conclusions, seem to be the overarching pattern that’s emerged for US intelligence post 2001.
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Well! You know how unscrutable ----I mean, inscrutable-------Asians are.
No agency is able to track inscrutable…
Wonder how many ‘inscrutable-tracker software’ could be sold?
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Like most conservative media publications, Politico LOVES to report on conspiracy theories.
“Whenever we see some indicators or leads that North Korea may be involved, when we follow those leads, they turn out to be dead ends,”
Gee, wouldn’t a covert, government-sponsored cyber-attack leave crumbs and calling cards for everyone to convict them of their crime? NOT!
The fact(?) that there is no evidence of DPRK sponsoring the hack, does not exonerate them from suspicion.
I’m sure the evidence linking North Korea to the Sony hack is lying right next to the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam was stockpiling.
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That the FBI is able to track cyber attacks about as well as North Korea can launch them?
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for me, it’s more, what does this say about American Intelligence in general. We got lied into a war with Iraq and Afghanistan, and there was a lot of aggressive posturing, some would say (myself included) acts of war, with the recent N Korea thing. Politically based conclusions, rather than fact based conclusions, seem to be the overarching pattern that’s emerged for US intelligence post 2001.
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I regret that Obama had to make a comment based on the FBI’s findings.
Read Legacy of Ashes. This is not a post-2001 problem - it’s been going on for decades.
I’ll go out on a limb and say that the FBI has access to a LOT of information that the private security firm does not. Furthermore, the FBI probably doesn’t care to disclose the information, sources and methods just to say they are right on this.
When the Russians shot down a commercial aircraft Regan’s (unnecessary) public comments gave away a major intelligence secret.
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well…yes. i believe the current US foreign policy agenda was set over 100 years ago with the conflict in the Philippines. I just didn’t want to drag up ‘ancient’ history. I thank you for the referral though, I’ll check it out.
It’s quite a read. One comes away with the unshakable conviction that the U.S. would have been better served by having no CIA at all, getting its information solely from the NY Times and the BBC, and not engaging in any covert ops. It’s a sorry litany of bad intelligence, missed intelligence, and covert ops that either failed miserably or that triggered the law of unintended consequences. The FBI is certainly no better, to say nothing of the DIA.
You might not want to take a saw with you. That limb is pretty rotten already. The FBI’s theory of the case is almost laughably naive.