Discussion: Scientists: Ted Cruz Understands Less About Climate Than A Kindergartner

Yeah. Also, with the right setup, humans could “survive” on Mars. That doesn’t make Mars “habitable” in any meaningful sense.

Allow me this once to respectfully disagree for the sake of argument. Cruz is Harvard educated and came with a reputation as a killer in a debate setting. He should have been a star in the several republican debates held so far but he’s been thoroughly eclipsed by the other clowns who aren’t as well educated. So it seems he isn’t the animal some think he is… Craven, arrogant, and willing to say anything to gain power I agree with. He’s also extremely narcissistic and strongly disliked by his fellow Senators of both parties. That my 6yr old grandson understands more about science than Cruz does not surprise me.

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expect scientists to be challenged to say this to Cruz’s face

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And no, just to prove my climate knowledge, I will not come in out of the rain!

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In his case green, spoiled and maggot-infested meat.

Knowing science-- especially science related one particular subset of knowledge, like medicine – does not guarantee that a person is both able and inclined to apply a scientific mindset to other topics.

It’s a broad generalization, but medical specialists are notorious for thinking that their medical expertise implies a high level of understanding of all areas of medicine … and sometimes by extension any important topic. (This includes, of course, excellent judgement about what is and isn’t important.)

There are counter-examples, when medical professionals are aware of the limits of knowledge in their own field and realize what that implies about the rest of reality. But Dr. Carson is clearly not one of these.

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I don’t know about that. “Green Eggs and Ham” went over his head. He read it filibustering the ACA, and the story was about learning that you shouldn’t assume you don’t like something you haven’t tried. Sharp? I don’t think so.

Craven and cynical – oh, without a doubt. Dishonest, narcissistic, and generally hateful too.

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And hissing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/24/standoff-over-government-climate-study-provokes-national-uproar-by-scientists/

“Jeb Bush appears to have the best understanding of climate science in the GOP” = “Jeb Bush cannot possibly win in the GOP”

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You forgot ‘evil’.
I truly believe that he is the most dangerous of the GOP candidates.

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Both understand less about about science that the average neonate.

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It’s hard to make a man understand something when his social status and political future f depend on him not understanding it.

A different study showed his numbers were siimilar when the subject was the clitoris.

“I would not say that the planet will become uninhabitable. Regardless of what we do, some humans will survive,” Andrew Dessler, a climate scientist at Texas A&M University…

Neither would Bernie Sanders. What he actually said was “the planet that we’re going to be leaving our kids and our grandchildren may well not be habitable.”

Dessler evidently does not know the meaning of the word ‘habitable’ and so he substitutes another word for it, on basis of the ‘sounds-like’ principle.

Habitable: “suitable or fit to live in” (Merriam-Webster, other sources agree). It’s also a legal term, " referring to a residence that is safe and can be occupied in reasonable comfort." For this they subtract points?

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My assessment of that when he did that was that he was either:
a. Too stupid to understand the moral of Green Eggs and Ham
b. Thought you and I were too stupid to understand the moral of Green Eggs and Ham

It’s one or the other, and can’t be both. I think it’s the second, personally.

Not sure how accurate the survey could be though, if it puts Sanders anywhere but on top, since he gets it that climate is our greatest security threat and no other candidate does.

You didn’t ask me how I voted. I won’t reveal how I voted in any event, but if you think about it minimally you should be able to figure out how I voted.

But that said, I believe that it’s possible for a young earth Creationist to slip through even a geology program. It would take careful selection of the department and the supervisory faculty within the department. It would also take someone highly skilled in some aspect of field geology or geochemistry or whatever, because the faculty would have to look past the bizarre beliefs of the candidate.

That’s exactly what happened here: a grad student came in with good lab skills that were honed in the program. The student’s beliefs didn’t come into question until the final oral exam. What do you do at that point? You give your colleagues hell for having a qualifying exam that doesn’t reveal that kind of nonsense for one thing. But that doesn’t solve the problem of this particular student.

But the fact is that there are enough academics who are pragmatists that it’s possible for a sufficiently motivated student to do it. I myself would question why the student wanted to do that, but people want incongruous things with great frequency.

Cruz already missed the very obvious and essential lesson of Green Eggs & Ham.

I doubt a coloring book would be of much use.

I’ve read the accolades regarding Cruz’s intelligence, and his curriculum vitae is impressive enough, but there are different kinds of intelligence – it’s not a linear measurement. When he misidentified the moral of a children’s book in his highly publicized filibuster, I was (and continue to be) at a complete loss to understand any beneficial strategy from his appearing so stunningly stupid.

Perhaps his strategizing is just beyond my ken. But, then, I understand Dr. Seuss books, so Cruz and I are probably at an intellectual standoff.

Nah. The emperor has no clothes.

I have yet to see any evidence of his intelligence. And before someone screams “HARVARD” I can point out that I’ve known plenty of Ivy League types. They’re not the best schools - they’re the ones you send your kids to so that they can network with “the right people”.

And let’s all remember that Dubya was a Princeton boy. An Ivy League education isn’t impressive.

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A very wise professor under whom I studied once observed that learning intrinsically demands change. If one is not open to change and prepared to embrace different and new views of the universe, then he/she is incapable of learning anything of use. The process of learning is a process of opening one’s mind. Thus admitting any students as described above, who comes to the academy with rigid, doctrinal views, and who are unwilling to entertain the possibility that their views may be incorrect, would be a waste of effort and resources.

Even Oliver Cromwell, a rigid and devout Puritan who lead the overthrow of the English Monarchy in 1642, is often quoted for his admonishment toward intellectual modesty; “I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken.” Still good advice for us all.