BTW, if you want to have some fun with this story, try Faux News. The Starnes Church of the Perpetual Persecution Complex has gone completely apoplectic over it.
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Well when I was in high school I didnât much care what an adult had to say. This adult pressure thing for 16, 17 and 18 year olds is hogwash .
pft they canât play football if they do not agree with some history or gov. teacher about American politics, world affairs, and fail based on not giving the answers expected.
The State of Texas has more influence over what your children learn because of the control it has over school book publishing, then your school district does.
You guys are barking up the wrong tree.
Your children will see porn on their phones then they will prayer on the football field.
Did you really just equate passing history and science and math tests with forcing someone to participate in or conform to particular religious beliefs and practices? Really? Jesus Tapdancing ChristâŚyouâre the False Equivalence PosterboyâŚnice to finally meet you.
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Well when I was in high school I didnât much care what an adult had to say. This adult pressure thing for 16, 17 and 18 year olds is hogwash.
And now that youâve finished patting yourself on the back for your rugged individualism, you might want to consider empirical evidence of how human psychology works. High-pressure environments exist everywhere, and people do succumb to them. Take the Amazon controversy earlier this year: adults working insane hours, not because they were literally forced to, but because the corporate environment made it clear that it was expected of them, and that was enough for them to buckle under even as they were crying at their desks⌠and these are adults. Teenagers in the even more conformist context of a sports team are even more vulnerable.
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No I am talking about indoctrination into possible views of Government, war, Christian nations, politics, economics, cultural norms.
Read the damn post.
Oh bull shit they can not make you believe.
Oh bull shit they can not make you believe.
Right, nobody has ever come to believe something because of their exposure to indoctrination. Cults donât exist. Fox News doesnât have an audience. The vast majority of people retain their parentsâ religions because they have dispassionately and rationally concluded that those religions are best.
Get real.
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The vast majority of people retain their parentsâ religions
There you said it Parentsâ belief; not the coach, not their friendsâ.
The Satanic Temple is doing great work, actually. Theyâre making the simple point that, if one religion is tolerated, all others should be equally tolerated. Theyâre the ones with the goat-god statue they try to have displayed on public property that displays other religious icons.
And theyâre right!
Also, I gave them $100 and got a cool resin statuette of the goat-god (whose name escapes me now). Itâs on my mantelpiece.
Join ussssssssâŚ!!!
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Iâve got two live goats, does that count even if Iâm not ready to sacrifice them just yet?
Did anyone who didnât pray get to start? You better believe someone counted noses.,
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Conform oneâs behavior, not force oneâs belief, is the gist of Livi_Oâs argument; those are different things. The evidence for voluntary conformity to group behavior is well attested by laboratory experiments and documented real-world experiences, particularly in stressful situations like combat atrocitys, regardless of the beliefs or feelings of the individuals involved.
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Are parents public employees? If a person in authority is praying in public they are coercing the people they have power over regardless of their intent. If youâre the second string QB and you see the coach kneeling after the game are you just going to walk away? I doubt it.
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Your children will see porn on their phones then they will prayer on the football field.
Thanks for pointless and poorly phrased counterargument. Once again, because you seem to have difficulty understanding it:
It doesnât matter if the quid pro quo is not an explicit arrangement or treated like a mandatory requirement. It is IMPLICIT.
There you said it[:] Parentsâ belief; not the coach, not their friendsâ.
Itâs not a binary thing. Parents may have more power to indoctrinate than a coach, but even a coach has enough power to be troubling.
(As for dismissing the power of friends to change minds: are you serious? You donât know anyone who took up smoking, despite parental admonitions, because their friends convinced them it was cool?)
Big Billy Goat Gruff?
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Keep on keeping it real, brahâŚ
âAnd when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.â Matthew 6:5-6
Apparently, he was violating his own godâs teachings, though.
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The damn post is unreadable and without sense, although it is obvious that no one indoctrinated you into the realm of grammar and coherence. Kudos to you, you blathering rebel, you.
Ad hominem is not an argument!