Discussion: Santorum: Muslim Community Responsible For 'A Lot' Of Anti-Semitism (VIDEO)

Is Ricky trying to be the next Newt?

He knows he won’t ever win another election so there has to be an end game I’m missing.

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He’s not “probably”…he is equating criticism with Israel with anti-Semitism. He’s intentionally blurring the issue of the politics of rightwing Likudniks with all Jews that live in the US, most of whom find the exclusionary policies towards Muslims in the US as deplorable as any other exclusionary policy towards a religious minority or ethnic minority as a form of discrimination.

Santorum is a shallow little man with no sense of decency and the only fucking religion he gives a shit about, though from an extremely warped point of view, is a Xtian one, which he panders to constantly. The man is sick in the head, and he’s even more fucked up when it comes to anything having to do with religion.

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Anything rather than concede that right wing terrorism needs to be tracked in this country.

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Agreed. Just trying not to fry my brain with extreme and constant anger, but I did not intend to soften or trivialize the issue.

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I hear you. I can’t stay at hyper vigilance level for long on this clusterfuck of Presidency and its adjacent bullshit before burning out myself too.

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No dick head, it falls on right wing christians that think anyone that doesn’t believe in Jesus can be treated like shit, especially if they associate with the folks christians blame for Jesus’s death. Go back and look at the early years of Hitler and I bet you’ll find a lot of US christians that thought he was doing the right thing and we might need to start doing that too. Especially if they though it meant they could take shit from them. Right along the lines of how they thought blacks should be treated.

Rick Santorum is a liar and everyone knows it. Anti-Semitism is nothing knew and as any student of history will tell you well being all too common, is associated almost exclusively with Christianity. I mean more Jews lived in Iraq under Saddam Husain than lived in Poland, go figure.

The reason for the difference in attitude toward the Jews between Judaism’s two sisters religion is, not surprisingly, religious doctrine. In Christianity every non-Christian is condemned to hell for all eternity. Now think what that means, if you really believe that a person deserves to be condemned to hell for all eternity, of course you will treat them in not a good way.

Muslim doctrine however, considers Jews to be “people of the book” or bible and therefore deserving of a place in heaven. To mainstream Sunni Islam, Jew’s are of the first book, Christian’s the second and Muslim’s the third. Now of course under Islam it is better to be Muslim than anything else, I mean why else would you be Muslim, but it’s doctrine is far more tolerant toward Jews than Christian doctrine and as a result Muslim’s as a group are far more tolerant toward Jews than Christians.

In calling Santorum a liar, it can be argued I am giving him to much credit as he may just be an ignoramus. Santorum will likely argue about Israel and its relationship to its neighbors in defense of his lies or ignorance. Well Santorum is a Catholic, the church that is responsible for the Spanish Inquisition. I suggest that we all take a moment to see how Islam responded to the Spanish Inquisition.

In response to the Spanish Inquisition, the most religious of all Ottoman Sultan’s, Bayezid II, sent his entire navy to Spain to rescue all the Jews he could and bring them into the safety of the Ottoman Empire. Someone needs to ask Santorum his opinion on how Bayezid paid for saving the Jews of Iberia from Christianity, imposing a tax on the rich.

The historic not only tolerance of Jews but the protection of Jews from Christian persecution by Islam, Bayezid is only one of many historical examples, is why Israel exists today. That is most of the Jews of Israel are not from Europe, as there were just not enough Jews left in Europe to form a nation, but rather from former Ottoman provinces where Islam is the majority religion. The historic tolerance of Islam toward Judaism is why there were enough Jews left in the world after Christian persecution to have a homeland and I believe is the most important fact to remember when discussing Israel today.

That is the biggest danger to the existence of Israel is the attempt by people like Santorum to “Christianize” the conflict and turn the issue from a national issue, the State of Israel versus the State of Palestine, into a religious issue, Islam versus Judaism. If it is a national issue, it is possible for Israel to survive. If it is a religious issue, Israel is doomed. That is 10,000,000 Jews have no chance to survive against over 1,000,000,000,000 Muslims.

In that hope, the hope of thwarting at best an ignoramus and at worst an evil liar, I conclude with a paragraph from Bayezid’s Wikipedia page.

From Bayezid’s II wikipedia page; “In July 1492, the new state of Spain expelled its Jewish population as part of the Spanish Inquisition. Bayezid II sent out the Ottoman Navy under the command of Admiral Kemal Reis to Spain in 1492 in order to evacuate them safely to Ottoman lands. He sent out proclamations throughout the empire that the refugees were to be welcomed.[5] He granted the refugees the permission to settle in the Ottoman Empire and become Ottoman citizens. He ridiculed the conduct of Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile in expelling a class of people so useful to their subjects. “You venture to call Ferdinand a wise ruler,” he said to his courtiers, “he who has impoverished his own country and enriched mine!”[6] Bayezid addressed a firman to all the governors of his European provinces, ordering them not only to refrain from repelling the Spanish refugees, but to give them a friendly and welcome reception.[6] He threatened with death all those who treated the Jews harshly or refused them admission into the empire. Moses Capsali, who probably helped to arouse the sultan’s friendship for the Jews, was most energetic in his assistance to the exiles. He made a tour of the communities and was instrumental in imposing a tax upon the rich, to ransom the Jewish victims of the persecution.”

The good thing about most Jews is they are not driven to make everyone believe what they believe. That shit falls mostly on christians and next on Muslims. Truthfully I think it’s a mental issue and some folks use Christianity to say it’s ok and some folks use Islam to say is ok.

Hey brown frothy mix proof or STFU. You don’t get to make up fact to match your prejudice.

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Your reporting omits that Santorum also blamed Obama for anti-Semitism during the Trump era, well, just because Obama.

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Yeah, Muslims are not the ones turning over gravestones in Jewish cemeteries. They’re not the ones making bomb threats against Jewish temples. They are not the ones spray-painting swastikas on peoples homes and cars. They’re not. And to infer that they are is disingenuous and bigoted. But you know that, don’t you. You frothy little pusillanimous punk.

If Muslims are anti=Semitic, what would you call the white Christian folks who tended the flames at Auschwitz? And aren’t there as many of them as there are of the other?

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It is actually religious doctrine. It is against Jewish doctrine to actively seek converts. It is actually against Hindu doctrine to actively seek converts. Whereas Christianity and Islam as part of their religious doctrine, if not required, are encouraged to seek converts. Buddhists are also encouraged to actively seek converts. This may have something to do with Judaism and Hinduism being original religions. Buddha himself was an Indian prince and Buddhism began as a reform movement within Hinduism just as Christianity began as a reform movement within Judaism and one of the main goals of the Profit Mohammed when he formulated Islam was to bridge the differences between Christianity and Judaism.

Those horrible Anti-Semitic Muslims – can’t stop blaming the Jews for killing Jesus.

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He’s right that there is anti-Israel sentiment on campuses, and that some of it is anti-Jewish. Pro-Israeli groups do have a hard time there, in my experience. It is hard sometimes to sort out anti-Jewish stereotypes and hatred from support for Palestinian rights. But. Campus progressives who don’t like Israel or Jews are not calling in bomb threats or tossing cemeteries and neither are US Muslims, although I can’t prove it. Santorum is deflecting, of course, from the “truth” that attacks on anti-Semetic attacks on Jews is now more acceptable, given DJT’s – and his enablers’ – voicing hateful speech toward nonwhites in general. Cuomo seems to have done better with this than some.

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jmundstuk, i would like to highlight something you point out about being anti-jewish and being anti-Israel. In my book, they are not the same thing. I am not in support of Jewish expansion of settlements in the occupied territories. That most certainly does not equate to me being anti-Jewish. Far from it. Just as i can be against a border wall with Mexico, that does not mean that i am anti-American. There is a huge difference between theological religious acceptance, and support of religious government policy. Very frequently, religious-based government policy does not equate with the theological doctrines of that religion. Look at the laws that Republicans are cramming down our throats right now, all based on their limited ideals and understanding of Christianity! This is why i strongly support the separation of church and state in America. Being an atheist does not make me anti-American. I can strongly disagree with the aims of Iran and not be anti-Muslim. I can find Jerry Falwell completely disgusting without being anti-Christian. Actually, i think Jerry Falwell is in league with the Devil, but that’s another story.

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