The fact that he lost doesn’t imply that these ideas aren’t accepted by a majority of Americans. Were they not so popular, why would Clinton and the platform committee pretend to adopt so many of them?
Oh, I know – she’s a rank amateur at this. No, on second thought, I don’t think so.
Poor Bernie. He’s getting run over by his own movement.
The rest will crawl back in their holes after it finally sinks in that they didn’t get their way. It doesn’t matter how much the Democratic party tries to appease the dead enders.
I think this will be evident when the midterms roll around.
Almost makes you want to take one of their participation trophies and beat them over the head with it, doesn’t it?
At some point, I hope these people grow up instead of becoming our version of the “tea party”.
We don’t need what happened to Republican senatorial candidates in Delaware and Nevada in 2010, and Missouri in 2012, to happen to us.
You very rarely get the full loaf in politics. If you get at least half or three quarters, I think you take it and keep fighting another day. This isn’t kindergarten. There are real stakes here.
Clinton isn’t perfect, but it’s no contest between her and Trump. It’s a binary decision… you either help her or him. No middle ground.
I could almost understand sitting out if the opponent was a traditional Republican, but I can’t when it’s a “madman” like Trump, you can’t. Sorry, but you owe it to your country to vote for Clinton, even if you have to hold your nose to do it. Anything else is self-indulgent.
I realize that it’s impossible for you to accept that they were much closer on policy than not. I get that. But really - he lost.
He lost the race.
What that means is that a majority of the people in this country either didn’t like him or didn’t like his ideas or a combination of both.
That is why he LOST.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) told progressive supporters Monday that they were no longer “fringe players” in their party
What party is that? The progressive independent party?
If recent mid-term history turnout means anything, it’ll be at around 36.3% as in 2014.
Yep, in THEIR party, they rule.
In any OTHER party, they’re fringe.
You didn’t answer the question. If his ideas are so bad, why is Clinton much closer to him than not?
1800 delegates. 8 million donations averaging $27. Yeah, he’s fringe all right – he’s fringe to the fat cats. Even the corproate media couldn’t sustain ignoring him.
Ahh…the maturity of sniffit when he can’t defend his positions. A break down that exhibits itself in wildly flailing around and tossing out as many insults as he can muster.
Read my post. Try really hard this time, since apparently comprehension is a bit of a problem for you today. Bernie need to be prepared to make a case for voting FOR Hillary, not merely to vote against Trump. That’s the message of the week, and that’s the message he has known he has to deliver for quite some time.
He didn’t make that case here. He didn’t even make an attempt at that case.
What you are doing is building up yet another one of your useless strawman to defend Bernie.
Precisely why many of us raised concerns when he was winding them up, while you were busy scolding everyone for daring to say anything not glowingly positive about Bernie. You were wrong then, now its coming home to roost, and you are wrong again.
Rather ironic given how many electrons you have spent on these pages scolding everyone and telling us how we NEED these people, and being mean to them isn’t going to them on board. Now we don’t need them, so just ignore them? While of course, you continue to scold everyone for not joining the Sniffit Wrong Bandwagon.
What is the point of a nomination process within a party if people don’t back the nominee that comes out of it?
After an general election we have to accept the results, even if the opposition candidate won. That candidate still gets seated and gets to use the powers of that office.
For a nominating election, it should be the same. By participating you are saying you care about the organization and want a say in how it is run, and the winner of the process should be supported by the members of the organization.
Of course, if you aren’t a member of the organization and don’t want to abide by the results of the election, what the heck are you participating for, anyway? If you don’t win, you’ll take your ball and go home or burn the house down?
I think the fact that most people are “leaving” (i.e., willing to vote Clinton) speaks to the fact that Bernie really didn’t create a cult. The small portion of his supporters did though, and it was some really special stupid and they’re still stuck on that stupid while everyone else moves on. The vast majority of his supporters weren’t cult-minded in the first place, just normal liberals who had legitimate concerns and gripes about Clinton and wanted to push for more leftward policy making. There were some elements of naivete, ideological stiltedness and unrealism to the whole thing, because Bernie’s not so great on the policy-to-process conversion, but not everyone was on the bandwagon with the vitriol some directed towards Clinton or the straight-up adoption of right wing talking points about her that we see from the tiny cult portion on Team Unicorn.
Let 'em do their thing at the convention. It’ll make for more entertaining television. Just keep in mind that if proven plagiarism, a keynote speaker non-endorsing and a general bizarro-world surrealness to the entire RNC convention debacle wasn’t enough to derail Trump and still gave him a bump, the last dregs of Bernie’s supporters causing a kerfluffle over their butthurt isn’t going to derail Clinton or destroy her campaign in the long-run.
According to The Week, he did respond: http://theweek.com/speedreads/638614/bernie-sanders-asked-supporters-vote-hillary-booed-heckled
“Brothers and sisters!” Sanders yelled over the boos, trying to calm the crowd. “Brothers and sisters! This is the real world that we live in. Trump is a bully and a demagogue. Trump has made bigotry and hatred the cornerstone of his campaign.”
Now, they weren’t booing that we have to beat Trump, so Sanders talking only about Trump is tacitly admitting that backing Clinton isn’t his priority, and doesn’t have to be his supporters’ priority, either.
It’s not staying silent like the article suggests, but it is a big nothing burger.
dont nobody have time to make them feel better everytime they get their feelings hurt. they are going really feel the hurt if trump wins in nov
The crowd launched into a bunch of “boos.” Sanders didn’t comment on their reaction to his statement and continued talking about how Trump shouldn’t be elected.
… oh, thanks bernie… thanks a lot…
Yes, it is. They were booing Sanders saying we needed to elect Clinton, which is worse than calling Obama a Muslim since there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim.
A few seconds to say, “Don’t boo. I support Hillary Clinton and I again urge you to do so, too!” wouldn’t take more than three seconds from his speech and would do wonders to signal that he backs Clinton rather than opposes Trump.
And I’m not outraged. I’m disappointed in the candidate I originally supported but have been repeatedly frustrated by for about four months.
so how was letting and independent running within the democratic party working out for everyone?
About that “Fringe Players” thingy:
@wilson Correct. I neglected to mention this specifically, though I meant to include this aspect generally in my “sausage being made” comment. The problem is the DNC is not the Clinton camp or Sanders camp. It is supposed to be neither’s “camp”, but impartial.