Discussion: Sanders Sues Ohio Over Law Keeping 17-Year-Olds From Voting In Primary

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Wrong battle, wrong time

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Not at all. A primary is obviously a ĀØnominating contestĀØ, and the SoS is blatantly trying to disenfranchise voters. Sanders is right.

And, of course, Sanders kills in the under 29 set. :wink:

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Michigan Democratic Primary ex 18-24 year olds(non tax paying voters)…Clinton beats Sanders 54%-46%

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ā€œI welcome this lawsuit and I am very happy to be sued on this issue
because the law is crystal clear,ā€ he said in a statement, according to
CNN.

What a weird thing to say. Is this creeping Trumpism? I mean, who anywhere is happy to be sued? If the law is so clear shouldn’t he be upset about the frivolous lawsuit?

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I think it makes sense for people who will be 18 by the general to be able to vote in the primary. But why is this lawsuit being filed just one week before the primary in Ohio? It seems like this is something that a campaign would have a strategy to try to address months in advance.

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This is crazy. A slippery slope. This is rational?

It will boil down to whether it was allowed in the past. If they voted in the past the State is going to lose. But I hope this is more of a stunt than a real thing. If Sanders’s goal is to bring this into the light so folks can see another example the GOP taking voting rights away it’s smart move. If he wants to brand them with that…I get it. If he’s doing it on principal I think it a bit self defeating.

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Yeah, I don’t understand either. The handbook in question that is under challenge was issued for 2015. It’s not a new thing.

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Bernie Sanders Joining Fght Over 17-year-olds’ Right To vote in Ohio

The Fair Elections Legal Network filed a 16-page complaint against Husted today in Franklin County Court of Common Pleas, claiming that the most recent version of the Ohio Election Manual violates the state’s Election Code by barring 17-year-olds from voting in the presidential primary.

"Ohio law is clear on this issue,ā€ said Mike Brickner, senior policy director for the ACLU, ā€œ 17-year-olds are entitled to cast ballots in primary races when they will be 18 by the date of the general election. However, the secretary of state ( A republican) is injecting confusion into this election by carving out special exceptions for the presidential race.ā€

State Rep. Kathleen Clyde, D-Kent, released a statement calling the policy an ā€œunderhanded, back room attackā€ on voters’ rights…

ā€œDisenfranchising eligible voters is wrong, creates confusion, and drives people away from the voting process,ā€ she said in a news release today. "I applaud these extraordinary young Ohioans in their fight to be able to vote in our state’s presidential primary.ā€

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Here’s more from Columbus:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/03/05/17-year-olds-shut-out-of-presidential-primary.html

It’s a little confusing. The decision historically has been the same, but the Ohio code seems to contradict it.

The Ohio Revised Code states ā€œevery qualified electorā€ who will be 18 years old by the time of the general election has a right to vote in the primary. That specific line of code makes no exception for presidential primaries.

but

Former Secretaries of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, and Ken Blackwell, a Republican, both issued directives stating that 17-year-olds can only nominate officials, not elect them.

Blackwell, in a 2002 directive, cited a 1908 Ohio Supreme Court case which stated that 17-year-olds could vote in nominating primaries because they were not technically ā€œelectionsā€ as defined by the Ohio Constitution. But, he, like Husted, argued that 17-year-olds could not elect members of party-controlling committees.

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A lot of states let 17 year olds who will be 18 by the general election vote in the primary. It’s really not that uncommon.

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First, most 18-24 year olds work. They may not all pay income taxes at the end, “cos a lot of them have low paying jobs, but they, even the unemployed and students among them, certainly pay taxes.

Second, it“s irrelevant whether they pay income taxes or not, unless you“re suggesting that only income tax payers should be able to vote.

That sounds like Mitt Romney with his 47% comment.

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my glasses fog up at the crystal clarity of ā€˜they can vote, just not on every issue’.

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John Husted is a Republican shill and a total dick. I don’t usually go all curse words on things, but he is. He looks for little ways to undermine voting rights here, the courts shut him down and he moves to the next opportunity.

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Bernie Sanders Tax plan will raise the taxes of someone making between 30,000 and 50,000
by $2000…if a person doesnt think Trump would make mincemeat of that fact…then they are
poltically naive…

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That’s interesting. Seems strange to me but there are lots of strange things.

The only reason I know this is because, as part of my job, I write a voting guide for young voters. Plus, I went through this with my own son. At first I was skeptical, but have come to think it’s a good idea. Someone who has a right to vote in the general should also have a right to help decide who the candidate is.

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Do you think he will get shut down here or has the suit been filed too late to do anything about it for this election year?

I get your point but if it were my decision, I’d vote against it. Find out all kinds of nuances during election time.