Discussion: Sanders Says He Supports DNC Chair's Primary Opponent

Too bad. Sanders could use a payday loan right about now.

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Do Sanders and his supporters hate her for her policies or because she they believe she has used her position to favor HRC in the primary? I am always a bit taken back by the hatred directed at DWS – and to my ears, it has the same misogynistic tone that is directed at HRC.

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How about those tax returns? Jane still too busy? Still?

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I just don’t get the hate. When you ask the haters to explain their hate all you get is a bunch of stuff that doesn’t seem proportional or, indeed, much cause for just grievance.

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It’s possible the answer that question is, yes. May be for both reasons.

Look, Wasserman-Schulz has made no secret of her support for Hillary, even though she is supposed to be objective.

Her policies have favored Hillary, most egregiously with the scheduling of debates on Sunday nights - to support the hypothesis, how many GOP debates were scheduled on Sunday nights?

She just hasn’t done the job in non-Presidential actions either. The Democratic party has done nothing to support Obama in 2012. She has done nothing to unify the party behind its policies and platform planks. Her actions have stood silent in the face of GOP mis- and malfeasance.for the last eight years.

There’s keeping your powder dry and then there’s doing nothing. She’s squandered way too many opportunities to put the party ahead of the GOP on so many issues and we are the worse off for it. Because of her, the Democratic party is always defending itself from attack instead of taking the initiative and differentiating ourselves from the GOP.

I’ve been in favor of removal since the 2012 election cycle. It’s way overdue and she is, at the very least, incompetent in this role. I’ll leave it to the natives to explain how she earns re-election in the face of her record of representation for her constituency. I have no dog in that fight.

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Ya know, Unlike a lot of commenters, i am pretty agnostic with respect to DWS. I hear and read about pay day loans, and that she’s bad at her job. But then again, Bernie and his “Comic Con co-conspirators” have been unremittingly criticizing her from the git go in ways that have seemed to me to be overtly misogynistic. And this fits into the general pattern that these guys have fallen into with respect to not only DWS, but Mrs Clinton, Barbara Boxer, and the Nevada Democratic chairwoman, Roberta Lange.

At this rate, in spite of DWS’s pecadilloes, the Bernie and his brats have me regarding her as the second coming of St. Joan.

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Sometimes people are unable to secure credit and currently there may be no other options for them in times of economic emergency. So payday loans may be a necessary stop gap – as long as these institutions are well-regulated and prevented from charging exorbitant levels of interest.

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Debbie Wassermann Schultz quietly got rid of Obama’s ban, in place since 2008, on the Democrats taking DC lobbyist money. The Washington Post reported it last night. Link below. Who finds this action defensible for any reason? Sanders won’t. What will Clinton say about it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

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Nonsense. They don’t even get along (Clinton and Wasserman-Schulz).

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if elected president.

You had me until there. May as well interview the “man on the street” at this point.

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Actually, Hillary beat Bernie in every single debate so scheduling them as DWS did helped Bernie, not Hillary.

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Is Bernie even really a Democrat? (Serious question). If he isn’t a registered Democrat, he doesn’t get a say. And, if he really is a Democrat, why does he still use the Independent label?

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No. I may be ok with DWS’s run as DNC Chair, and think she’s doing a fine job regardless of Bernie’s current spiteful revenge crusade. But payday loans are horrible loan sharks. There’s absolutely no defending them with a straight face. They screw over anyone who takes one. It is usury in its most blatant form.

Having said that, Bernie’s not one to speak about other’s sins, what with his NRA endorsements and Brady Bill opposition, his wife’s college schenanigans, the “missing” tax returns, and what not.

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Ok so let’s take this one step further for DW-S being removed:

In 2008, Barack Obama came out of nowhere to take the Presidency, including defeating Hillary during the primary season.

At that time, what was the construction, the party structure of the House and the Senate?

Two years later, there were mid-term elections. At that time, what was the construction, the party structure of the House and the Senate?

In 2012, Obama ran again and won. At that time, what was the construction, the party structure of the House and the Senate?

In 2014, there was mid-term elections. At that time, what was the construction, the party structure of the House and the Senate?

Under her leadership, incumbents RAN AWAY from Obama and his record. RAN AWAY. Asked him NOT to campaign for them. What happened to the House and the Senate? Where are we now? What was her effort to keep that from happening and why was it so unsuccessful, if any effort was made?

I ask you - under her leadership, what did she do to prevent this (because, if she did anything at all, it didn’t work). I ask you, under her leadership, what is she now doing to prevent the remote possibility of losing the White House?

How is she consolidating the party to win back as much as we can of the House and Senate and not lose the White House? This is the primary focus of her job: to keep as much as possible of the legislative and execute branch. We’ve kept the executive branch, but lost the legislative branch to our everlasting detriment. What she’s doing is not working toward this end. Period.

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This. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Wasserman-Shultz’s as DNC chair: for one, she’s been persistently unwilling to help Dems challenge House Republicans in neighboring Miami-area districts because she’s on good terms with them. These are districts that voted for Obama, and yet often go uncontested. These are winnable seats, and one job of DLC chair is to make sure there’s a well-qualified, well-funded candidate in every winnable contest.

However, the specific way in which the loudest Sanders supporters have demonized her has spilled over into misogynistic conspiracy theory nonsense for a while.

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So Bernie is vindictive too. Another fine quality for a president.

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This is Bernie in his RAGE destructive phase where he’s trying to get back at anyone and everyone he perceived as opposing him, and who in his mind caused him the nomination. Because like every good revolutionary, his losing isn’t his fault, it’s everybody else’s fault.

DWS just happens to be the most high profile target he could conceivably go after. It kind of works on her mostly because:

  1. She’s intensely disliked by Bernie fans due to her open support for
    Hillary. Which is her own business and she’s entitled to do! But
    the Bernie folk aren’t exactly known for being rational or
    emotionally stable.

  2. More relevantly, her open support for Payday Loans makes her
    disliked by a much broader swath of Democrats. Payday loans are
    absolute sh*t. There is absolutely no way you can say with a
    straight face that a 2 week loan at 20-40% interest is legit. They
    prey on poor folk, the most desperate folk out there. They are evil sumsofb*****s.
    Period. Full stop.

Still, bottom line on this particular crusade, this is just Bernie being a bitter, vindictive raging asshole to the end.

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I realize payday loans are terrible – no one would chose to use them if they had a better option. And there should be another option that does not prey on people’s desperation. I am not sure how an alternative would function – but there needs to be something that is economically feasible and fair to borrowers.

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