Yes. By donating to state parties (which you were previously decrying about not being funded) and down-ballot races as a party. Something that Sanders refuses to do and has literal not donated a single penny, literally, towards while Clinton has done some to the tune of over $28 million this cycle, and gets attacked for doing fundraising dinner events for explicitly that purpose (the Clooney event in California for example).
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Iâm sure all the Bernie Bros ranting on and on about âcorporate whoresâ on the internet are doing so on small batch, artisinal, farm to table, locally sustainable smart phones/internet/personal computing technology.
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No, Bernie saying that we should ignore Southern Voters during the primary is âdumping a 50 state strategyâ. The DNC never did any such thing.
As if African Americans in Alabama havenât been disenfrachised enough in our countryâs history, we now have a âprogressiveâ candidate and his supporters who say their votes should be silenced, because white people voting in caucuses in solid red Utah, Kansas and Idaho should have more importance.
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No, the âprogressive leftâ have attacked blue dogs (and yes I have attacked them too) and those are who we lost in mid-term elections in 2010 onward. There are very few Blue Dogs left in office which is why you have a GOP Senate and a GOP House. And because the GOP made huge gains in 2010, got to re-draw the district maps we will live with until after the 2020 redistricting.
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No, just applying a little occamâs razor. I said he was referring to Clinton because he started the statement with a reference to Clinton, a democratic woman running for office, did not refer to any other office holders, and ended the statement with a reference to voting for democratic whores.
"âNow Secretary Clinton has said that Medicare for all will never happen. Well, I agree with Secretary Clinton that Medicare for all will never happen if we have a president who never aspires for something greater than the status quo. Medicare for all will never happen if we continue to elect corporate Democratic whores who are beholden to big pharma and the private insurance industry instead of us,â
As for what the crowd understood, who is mind reading now? I would note the the Sanders campaign loves to attack Clinton as being beholden to big pharma and private insurance. I would also add that many Sanders supporters responded saying âshe is a corporate whore.â So I donât really feel like Iâm going out on a limb here.
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I read voraciously, about almost everything, and have done for over 50 years.
But thanks for the lovely ad hom attack.
All candidates are flawed, but neither Hillaryâthe only Democrat runningânor Bernie are âfatally flawed.â
Bernie is in way over his head, as has been shown repeatedly, and his 50-year-old message is stale and doesnât appeal to a broad enough swath of votersâthis is a principal reason heâs not going to win.
As usual, you toss a bomb, not caring where it goes off, and you offer nothing of substanceâbecause your arguments have no substance, which stems from your political naivete and your insistence that you know everything.
Hillary is easily the most qualifiedâand most vettedâpresidential candidate in my lifetime.
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Wonderful, do you think the rest of the party should follow your and Hillaryâs lead? You do realize that party building requires more than fundraising. It requires a commitment to candidate recruitment and development. It requires announcing loudly and repeatedly what the Democratic party stands for. It requires real leadership from the top.
By the way I am not a Bernie Bro. Only those who donât really read my comments think that. I donât think Bernie has the skills to be President.
I really want to support Hillary. I want her to tell me just what her plans are to take back the Congress. All I get out of her campaign is she plans to do âachievableâ things. I read that as she is prepared to do little things and just bump along. I want FDR, I donât want George Bush.
I totally agree.
Thatâs not at all what I said. But I wasnât among those who chose to primary Blanche Lincoln, or mock Mary Landrieu or any other embattled Democrat in a southern or Red state that was fighting for re-election.
And I did not castigate Rahm when he said it was retarded for Democrats to run attack ads against fellow Democrats in battleground states, or misconstrue his words into calling Democrats who did so âretards.â
My point is the Democratic Party is a big tent, and we are not going to elect a Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Sherrod Brown or Nancy Pelosi in Louisiana, West Virginia or Missouri. In Missouri, weâre lucky to get a Claire McCaskill, and in West Virginia weâre lucky to get a Joe Manchin â seriously.
But yeah, kudos on the housecleaning, âprogressives.â because the Blue Dogs got replaced by tea party extremists.
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JesusFuckingChrist but that is a stupid statement!!
No Congressional majority is permanent.
In fact, the GOPâs internecine warfare has made retaking the Senate a very real possibility, and may even put control of the House in play.
At the very least, the GOP House margin will shrink by a number of seats.
Once again, you complain, you blame, and you lie because you have nothing of substance to offer.
Youâre really getting quite tiresome.
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FDR wouldnât have been FDR without 330 Dems in the House and 72 Dems in the Senate.
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It is permanent unless Democrats decide to come out of their defensive bunkers.
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As is your wont, you totally misconstrue what Hillary and her campaign are about.
Youâre just a whiner.
Period.
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Bingo. Finally somebody is catching on.
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Democrats are not in any such âdefensive bunkers.â
It is you who is defensive, and you ignore facts because they donât fit your pre-conceived notions.
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Really, what big things does Hillary want to accomplish, not your projections, but big things she has proposed. She has a lot of achievable proposals, but none of them seem real game changers to me.
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You mean by donating to and fundraising for state parties and down-ballot races and running on a platform that can not be toxic in purple and red sets while still moving towards long-term progressive goals?
You bet.
Saying their votes in souther states because the didnât support Sanders?
No. But then that is not the Clinton camp doing that. Hers is built on building coalitions. Not demanding my way or the highway purity.
And I say this as someone who can admit my guilt in loathing many of the things the Joe Manchins and others in blood red states say and do.
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You know, endorsing that whole âwhoreâ thing? Kinda sexist. Its a derogatory term predominantly directed at women (you donât even call men who sell sex whores). While itâs used sometimes in broader context, every time it is used it calls up those old stereotypes and hurts. So it would be a great idea to find a better word if you want to be seen as sensitive to womenâs issues. Especially when weâre talking about a primary challenge against a very strong woman candidate. Saying that this woman does things for money and using the word whore? Icky.
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Universal coverage. Making corporations pay their fair share and not put the economy at risk. Making college affordable. Bringing about a better working and livable wage. Securing the SCOTUS to give a shot as overturning Citizens United, which is a a huge lynchpin to allowing real campaign finance reform, which in turn sets up the big âmoney out of politicsâ reforms we al want to see.
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