same as before
Philly is coming…
Trump has about a 40% chance of getting over. Same with Clinton…
Bernie has a 20% chance of influencing how policy is made, but this ‘i’m going to win the whole shooting match’ bit…nope.
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I think it really would have helped if Bernie had learned the rules of the Democratic primary process, then educated his supporters about the rules. And then of course, played by the rules, instead of whining that the process is “rigged”.
Yes, the rules are complicated, but they’ve been around a long time. And both candidates have to play by the same set of rules.
And here’s a thought: if you want to be the nominee of the Democratic Party, then be a Democrat.
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Senator Sanders is becoming unhinged.
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“There are two sides to every issue and I’m sure that Secretary Clinton will have very vigorous proponents of her point of view, as we will have,” he said.
Out of curiosity, if there are only TWO sides to every issue, which side is Trump on? Bernie, this is the Democratic party - you may have heard of it although you never bothered to join it. We don’t all need to agree with every position every Democrat takes but if you think you’re going to burn down MY party in order to go out in a blaze of self-deluded glory, you’d better think again.
(I’m trying to tone it down. What I really want to say is simply FUCK YOU, BERNIE! Oops, still have a ways to go…)
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It is the same kind of extortion that his NV campaign attempted to exert, and that his campaign has been able to exert in many of the caucus states. For extortionists, the Sanders campaign sure loves to whine and play the victim a LOT. They acquired that tactic from the Dixiecrats who now inhabit the GOP as part of their aggressive-passive extortion mode.
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“There are two sides to every issue and I’m sure that Secretary Clinton will have very vigorous proponents of her point of view, as we will have,” he said.
In other words, now Bernie’s Point of View–that Clinton is corrupt and must not be elected–will have a strong voice during both televised R and D conventions. I wonder if he will ever even mention the name “Trump” again.
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Open the doors of the Convention to the working-class? Translation: shut the door on black and Latino working-class Democrats. They have heavily supported Clinton (something like three-quarters of African American and two-thirds of Latino primary voters) and collectively represent a good third of Democratic party members, and it’s massively disproportionately their votes that Sanders says the superdelegates should overturn. It’s astonished me how the senator from 97%-white Vermont, with a disproportionately white following, gets away with a plan to, in effect, discount and disenfranchise Democrats of color and give his white followers 1.5 votes each. I’m not suggesting that this is Sanders’ conscious plan, but everybody knows that racism is potent precisely because it’s largely an unconscious phenomenon–and there is such a long and shitty history of black voters having their votes stolen and diluted that it makes me rub my eyes with disbelief that such a grotesque scheme is allowed to pass without comment. It’s bad enough that he has the gall to propose this superdelegate strategy: now just imagine that for some reason he succeeded. It would destroy the racial harmony of the party and cripple us at this November election and who knows for how many more. Why is this not being discussed? Why haven’t Black and Latino leaders, even those who have supported Sanders until now, met with him and said: This will not stand. Say your piece at the Convention by all means, but do not even talk about disenfranchising us and erasing us–we who have the most at stake in this election.
Sorry about the length of this comment, I’ve held back on this point in order not to make trouble, but enough is enough.
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Tangentially related. I read an article about Gore’s refusal to endorse anyone this year. What is really amazing is that he doesn’t write off Trump completely, and suggests Trump might be educable.
He is spoiling for a fight where there isn’t any - Hillary and Bernie align very closely on most issues. Healthcare, they both want 100% coverage, just have different was of getting there. Citizens United - that was a project directed against HILLARY. Minimum wage - we are arguing about whether it should be $12 or $15? It’s currently $7.25! Does he want to fight about relaxing gun laws? This is all about feeding his ego and lifelong nihilist fantasies.
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He’s about to retire with two government pensions for life.
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And what’s that sound of stamping feet? No, it’s not Bernie having a tantrum. It’s the sound of more Berners going over to Hillary’s side. Here’s a pistol Bernie, why don’t you shoot yourself in the other foot?
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sure he will…when he has to again explain why winning California is important for him to influence convention policy. Now he will be in for a surprise come the 7th…
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Saw Weaver on CNN. He thinks Sanders can win “with the super delegates.” And he pointed to California and New Jersey as places they’d win. These guys are out to damage the party. They have no interest in working together.
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If Hillary Clinton is counting on an endorsement from her husband’s former vice president, she’ll have to wait for it.
“It’s still too early, in my opinion, to endorse a candidate or pick a candidate,” Gore told PEOPLE in an interview to preview his 24-hour climate-change telethon, which starts on Friday.
He will eventually get involved…right now though, he figures his best seat is on the sidelines.
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This is what happens when a narcissistic egomaniac in his late twilight years gets a chance to live out his fantasies before he croaks.
Bernie’s living in an alternate world of revolutions, chaos, and blind adulation. At this point, it is absolutely, utterly pathetic.
I will be very, very happy when he disappears back into anonymity in the backwoods of Vermont once the Primary is over. He’ll fight it tooth and nail, of course, but we’ve officially entered the beginning of the “no one other than a Bernie Bro (a very small # of actual people) gives a fuck about Bernie Sanders” stage.
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Sanders’ movement isn’t about lack of order. It’s about who should provide the order–the oligarchs such as large banks, drug companies, medical insurance companies, and others who have backed the Clintons from the beginning such as Tyson Foods, or the people. In other words, who should the representatives represent in a Representative Democracy?
I also love the “shutting the door on the working class…” Bit he threw in.
She actually appointed a representative of organized labor to the platform comittee, he didn’t. So remind me, who is “shutting the door on workers?”
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What do you think would happen if Hillary, the elected officials supporting her, and other prominent people who are supporting her, put on their gloves today? A percentage of Bernie’s support would become stronger and angrier, for sure. But many (most) of his supporters don’t know him, don’t know about all the things we talk about here. Hillary’s been more than kind to Bernie and it hasn’t helped. Has it hurt? Has it made it easier for his supporters to think he’s a saint? Has his obstruction gone too far, so far that he’s hurting Hillary more than she’d hurt herself if she let go on him? This is a question and not an opinion.
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Enough Bernie! You’re railing against Wall St. billionaires and, sadly and ironically, you’re helping to put a fucking billionaire in the White House.
We don’t need another crusading Ralph Nader to give us someone, this time, who is worse than the damned nightmare to whom Nader handed the presidency.
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President Donald Trump…thanks for nothing…
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