Discussion: Ryan: Nunes Memo Is Just Good Ol' Fashioned Congressional Oversight

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He’ll get a good workout in hell

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Then you won’t mind a good old fashion pink slip. Putting party lines before country is a big no-no. And don’t say you haven’t been warned you’ve been warned on several occasions. So you won’t mind if we you are handed your hat on your way out in the term elections you’re worthless go live in Russia you traitor. You know that thing called checks and balances Your dereliction of duty’s house for an immediate removal if we could. You’re a worthless wonder your gutless and that’s why you never never elected as a VP gutless traitor.

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Someone is giving Nunes orders, and that same person has gotten to Ryan. No way Nunes himself convinced Ryan to embarrass himself so spectacularly. Yeah this plays OK with the base, but is very damaging politically to the Speaker. It almost like someone made a credible threat that he better go along with the plan or someone gets whacked. I’m no conspiracy theorist, but politically it makes no sense.

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I guess that when your party’s whole fundraising apparatus is infected with dark money and probably Russian money, you will even be willing to destroy the country’s institutions in order to keep your crimes secret. Watergate and Iran -Contra were mere rehearsals for Trump-Russia-GOP, and the Republicans have learned well from both scandals.

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Yeah “fair enough”…

And provably false. I guess Ryan was unaware the transcript of the meeting was already released and even Nunes admitted that the edits came after the vote.

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Bingo!

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Actually it is the good ol’ fashioned train wreck that happens every time the republicans have the keys paul. You lying sack of shyt.

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GOOD News! Paul Ryan is never going to be President. :smile:

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oh, of course it is, that’s why your party had to go to unprecedented lengths to use a tool that has never been used in the history of the country, it’s why you won’t let the DOJ or FBI review the memo, it’s why Nunes had the WH author it, nothing to see here at all Komrade

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The funniest part of this whole charade – well, it would be funny, if not for the whole undermining-the-rule-of-law, death-of-our-republic, Ermächtingungsgesetz thing – is all these Reps suddenly discovering that the FISA mechanism and the pervasive surveillance it enables has some teensy little downsides. They became ACLU members when, again?

Oversight, my Aunt Fanny. Vidkun Ryan (R-AynRand) cares nothing for civil liberties. All he cares about is the chance to realize his lifelong dream of cutting taxes, eviscerating the social safety net, and sticking it to all those “takers” out there. If that means covering for the clownish machinations of Vidkun Nunes (R-Rezidentura), then that’s a small price to pay.

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We’re all Russian now

In a free country, information about citizens is protected by law. Information about the government is open to the public.

In a police state, information about the government is secret and he citizen’s lives are open books.

Such total information inversion is necessary to facilitate the crimes of government and to prevent those crimes from becoming public knowledge

As summed up by Al Gore
"By closely guarding information about their own behavior, they are dismantling a fundamental element of our system of checks and balances.

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"Ryan insisted that the memo, which targets officials who applied for permission to conduct surveillance on a Trump campaign aide as part of the Russia investigation, is about surveillance law, not about the Russia probe.

“What this is not, is an indictment on our institutions, of our justice system. This memo is not indictment of the FBI, of the department of justice, it does not impugn the Mueller investigation or the deputy attorney general,” Ryan said."

Yeah, right. I could have this told to me by the person I trust most in the entire world…and I’d still call bullshit.

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Ryan just gets more insufferable every time he opens his smirking little mouth.

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so I keep getting lead by the nose to the question, Why?

Why destroy the institutions? Why abandon all governing norms? Why burn it all to the ground? What is the end game?

Where will we be at the conclusion?

tRUmp was always going to be a train wreck, why are congressional repubes now climbing aboard? The glaring shortsightedness of this approach has me very concerned about where this is headed. Assuming normal operating procedures heading forward from here is illogical. There appears to be no effort to halt the progress of this chaos, only pouring more gasoline on the fire at every opportunity. Why?

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as I am distressingly fond of saying, we are all tRUmp steaks now

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I heard elsewhere that Nunes is not smart enough to come up with all these schemes on his own. He now won’t say whether he or his staff worked with the WH to craft the memo… So, yeah - he’s getting directions.

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Oversight is one thing, releasing classified information without agency approval and declassification is another. Let it be known that Paul Ryan was one American who could have prevented crimes against our republic and chose not to.

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Congrats to all the august media gatekeepers who built this low-key sociopathic dweeb up into America’s Wonkiest Wonk over a couple of decades.

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How does he know? I was under the impression Ryan doesn’t read anything he’ll be asked about.