Discussion: Ryan: Abolishing ICE ‘Craziest Position I’ve Ever Seen,’ Why I ‘Feel Good’ About Fall

Ryan:

This is the agency that gets gangs out of our communities

What a fucking moron. This messaging might stick in mid-America… but no way anyone who has ever lived where there are actual gangs is going to fall for this line.

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Police are who go after gangs. ICE goes after families that haven’t committed crimes or only minor ones.

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‘Craziest position I’ve ever seen,’ Paulie?

Then you haven’t really been looking, have you?

One of the craziest things I’ve ever seen is photos of a man at a soup kitchen washing already clean pots and pans.

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The calls for abolishing ICE and starting again are not going to gain Dem votes this November. As a practical matter, such a proposal is ridiculous.

As a practical matter? ICE has only been around for 15 years, as a practical matter it could easily go away and have some of the needed things it does shift to other agencies. As a political matter, it will be hard to abolish ICE.

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If ICE is “the agency that gets gangs out of our communities, that helps prevent drugs from going into our schools, that rescues people from human trafficking” then its demonstrated incompetence in achieving those goals is more than ample reason to support Rep. Pocan’s proposal to “shutter the agency, launch a probe into its agents’ conduct and develop a committee to review how the U.S. should” address those issues.

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If they were really serious about stopping gangs and drugs, they would stop deporting people with no criminal record and offer citizenship to those who help bring criminals to justice.

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I feel so good about the fall that I’m not even bothering to run again!

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Ok, Eddie, several things occur to me here.

Number one - the movement to abolish ICE really gets y’all cause you like to talk about it in all kinds of terms.

Number two - your gloating. If the elections are fair and honest you’ll be gloated out of your job. If not, I will take the gloating you are demonstrating as prior knowledge that Putin was going to fix the midterms.

Just sayin. Keep it up smartass.

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Paul, Paul
My blue-eyed boy
Go fuck yourself

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They’re acting like Dems want to eliminate border patrol and immigration functions. That’s not the case.

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Liberate the Child Concentration Camps Now!

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So Ryan is going to hang his hope on abolishing ICE being crazy? That is what will save his party? He is another scared spinless Republican trying on his tough face. Not working. Ryan is a loser and a lame duck. Nothing he says carries any weight. Even his attempt at smugness looks pathetic.

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Paul Ryan…he is absolutely an immoral Trump Republican and Russian sympathizer. In other words, Paul Ryan has bought into the Trump-Putin neo-Nazi plan and movement. ICE is key to Trump’s white nationalism…basically Trump’s secret police that answers to no one but Trump.

Not even Paul Ryan can get answers on ICE.

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`Right but abolishing medicare, social security and the ACA are right in the mainstream Right???

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Given that Lil’ Eddie is the same guy who hadn’t heard the criticisms of Scott Pruitt, this shouldn’t come as a surprise.

ICE = Intranational Criminal Enterprise

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Hello all,

Long time reader first time poster…
I read this from a Dem pollster with the Clintons: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/donald-trumps-mainstream-immigration-policy
Now, I don’t profess to know what is really going on everywhere, but aren’t we sounding like shouting in our echo chamber while the rest of the country secretly enjoys what is happening but is too embarrassed to support openly?

Plus when actual ICE agents are essentially wanting to be moved out of the organization and instead into the police so they can do their actual jobs of dealing with gangs and terrorists then it’s pretty clear “Abolish ICE” is actually a pretty good slogan.

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Apparently not very well.

Trump just announced the gangs are winning. Why stay with a losing team?

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