If Russia supplied SA-11’s to their insurgents in Ukraine, I can’t imagine they did so without some Russian control as to how they are employed. Certainly Russia doesn’t want their own aircraft fired upon.
If Russia is tied to the shootdown of MH17, I wonder if Thom Hartmann will quit his television show The Big Picture on Russia-funded RT America out of protest.
Maybe she said something—“the plane was shot down because nobody is scared of Obama because he wears mom jeans”—and nobody cared enough to report on it. A fella can dream, can’t he?
Precisely. Note this Cheney, McCain and Graham. This is why you do not give sophisticated weapons systems to drunks, the irresponsible and terrorists like the ones in Syria and Libya you want to arm.
Haven’t heard a peep from all the right wing guys who thought Putin was the Second Coming of decisiveness. Now he just looks reckless and stupid.
People are so quick to criticize budgeted, paid-for propaganda, you know? Question motives, look for deceit and sophistry everywhere! Their old newspaper Pravda never had a decent chance. THis is the problem with critically aware people: they just look at a disinformation campaign and the automatically start picking it apart for it’s organized lack of truthfulness! WHERE IS THE LOVE?? Why can’t we learn to offer a little trust to those who get a paycheck for manipulating us?
The smarter American foreign policy minds at the beginning of the Cold War, like Hans Morganthau and George Kennan, were making exactly the same point in the late 40s.
Russia is Russia is Russia, and Soviet foreign policy wasn’t about the global proletarian revolution, but about longstanding Russian national interests.
Well, McCain was on Putin’s side on this technical issue: He was feeling lucky and had good hunch nothing was going to happen. And buoyed by self-confidence, he called anyone who didn’t share his inchoate optimism a coward. Okay, if Obama had listened to him, ISIS would have this technology now and they’d be shooting down scores of civilian aircraft, I grant that.
But American exeptionalism would be upheld because USA would have been brave, decisive, risk-taking, like McCain himself was when he crashed 5 planes. When he puffed out his chest and named Bible Spice as next in line to take over world leadership. Obama chose the voice of experience; McCain risked it all for freedom!